"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Hypogamy vs Hypergamy?

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Technically wouldn't dating down be as prevalent as dating up?

The idea of "girls only want an upgrade" doesn't make sense considering they're letting suboxone dealers nut in them and getting blacked out with drop-out thug boys. Well, low quality girls I mean.

Basically once you elevate yourself enough and increase your SMV, wouldn't you have to date down? Wouldn't every top-tier alpha be dating down anyway since all women are below him?

Is saying yes to girls that aren't 10s bad for your self-esteem?
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Technically wouldn't dating down be as prevalent as dating up?

The idea of "girls only want an upgrade" doesn't make sense considering they're letting suboxone dealers nut in them and getting blacked out with drop-out thug boys. Well, low quality girls I mean.

Basically once you elevate yourself enough and increase your SMV, wouldn't you have to date down? Wouldn't every top-tier alpha be dating down anyway since all women are below him?

Is saying yes to girls that aren't 10s bad for your self-esteem?
If your SMV is that high, you have to date down. I guess they just look at em like "fans" at that point.
 

zekko

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Technically wouldn't dating down be as prevalent as dating up?
Hypogamy. I think you're on to something here. There are a lot of complaints here about girls going after losers, hypogamy would explain it.

A girl might be hypogamous if she has poor self esteem, for example. She doesn't think she deserves a high value guy so she seeks out a low life that she feels comfortable with. Another phenomenon discussed here is when a girl wants to control the relationship, or have the most value in a relationship, she may want to date down in that circumstance also.

I completely agree, hypergamy does not cover every situation.
 

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Hypogamy. I think you're on to something here. There are a lot of complaints here about girls going after losers, hypogamy would explain it.

A girl might be hypogamous if she has poor self esteem, for example. She doesn't think she deserves a high value guy so she seeks out a low life that she feels comfortable with. Another phenomenon discussed here is when a girl wants to control the relationship, or have the most value in a relationship, she may want to date down in that circumstance also.

I completely agree, hypergamy does not cover every situation.
When we say "hypogamy", and guys thinking the females are dating "down"? Often enough that physically attractive female to the eye is part of a group of guys who may not be financially motivated, but were jocks or in the clique in school and they run with her. She dates guys who have made it good for themselves, but she associates and views herself of one of "them". She is a huntress. She's not dating down, she's dating her peers, the ones she affiliates with. You Mr Successful and financially well off are just a meal ticket.
 

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Women who marry for resources historically would dumpster dive - seek out younger guys, but only because they are more likely to have healthy children with them (a huge percentage of children are not fathered by the husband). They had less resources but better genes usually.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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So if I read you correctly, mrgoostuff and bigneil, you're saying that there is no situation when women date down? It's just an illusion? Can't say I agree, see my previous post.
 

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So if I read you correctly, mrgoostuff and bigneil, you're saying that there is no situation when women date down? It's just an illusion? Can't say I agree, see my previous post.
They don't view it as "dating down"... And many times the "hot babe" has no actual real standing other than her appearance. Her "peer" group is actually what you guys consider "dating down".

"Dating down" in my world would be a business woman or lawyer dating a barely employed guy, and kissing his a$$
 
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