"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Re the blackpillers - the core of this community, the real BPs are sub5 smv guys. Short, ugly , balding etc … I feel sorry for em because they are correct in that theyre pretty much fvcked. “Its over, it never began “ etc its true for them.
The best inner game won’t help them , and they know that….best they can do is money maxx and betabuxxdeluxe and be happy w that.But they reject even that.
Or escortmaxx , GeoMaxx. If they can afford.
But the majority cannot afford,
It’s pretty much over for em. Poor b@stards.
plenty of sub 5s women as well. Someone has to give them love too

Geomaxing is not really that helpful either, because the good looking women would still go with the good looking guys locally or good good look expats

never saw a guy that is a sub5 with decent women abroad

had a friend that was an incel and went to Thailand. Besides escort maxing, he managed to sleep with an ugly Thai girl

and even with escort maxing, the ugly escorts are the ones whom are cheap. The good looking ones are more or less the same price like in Europe

me personally i do not see any benefits of geomaxing, unless you aim for variety or to just go with your friends there and have fun
 
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"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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plenty of sub 5s women as well. Someone has to give them love too

Geomaxing is not really that helpful either, because the good looking women would still go with the good looking guys locally or good good look expats

never saw a guy that is a sub5 with decent women abroad

had a friend that was an incel and went to Thailand. Besides escort maxing, he managed to sleep with an ugly Thai girl

and even with escort maxing, the ugly escorts are the ones whom are cheap. The good looking ones are more or less the same price like in Europe

me personally i do not see any benefits of geomaxing, unless you aim for variety or to just go with your friends there and have fun
Re GM & EM this is also true to an extent too :up:
Lolling at your friend w the ugly thai girl .. broootal :cry:
I have my own example of this phenomenon of the ‘picky h00ker ‘. I vacationed to Bali a few years back and went out to the flash nightspot where all the hottest working girls congregate. I forgot to dress up and came straight there after the beach in a singlet. Shorts and thongs and a cap.
I approached a handful of the hot h00kers and they were blowing me out left and right , mocking me with “hahaha you look like old man ! In your shorts and flip flops ! LOLZZZ are u poor man? Haha- go away we don’t want you! Haha :rolleyes::lol::lol:“

No joke. I started pulling out my wallet and showing them - “I have a fat WALLET tho- let’s talk baby. how much u want ?” And they still didn’t want a bar of it. They gave me ludicrous prices to get rid of me. And backturned me.

The crowd were all dressed up. And the hot h00kers would only play with the hottest dressed up dudes !

brutal man.

but I did manage to get a slim hottie later that night for $120 AUD.
And a few days later I had her and her “sister” together in a 3 way for about $250

So that was nice :D
I’m pretty good w the haggling prices also ;) :p
 
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"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Dis is me with an AI comic book filter on a selfie pic
I have pretty good bone structure and ratios
(The filter is making me more handsome btw and removes the wrinkles and crows feet )

But I’m on the short side at 5’10” and slim framed/small shoulders.
Got a bit of a Dad Bod these days in my 40s.

 

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Dis is me with an AI comic book filter on a selfie pic
I have pretty good bone structure and ratios
(The filter is making me more handsome btw and removes the wrinkles and crows feet )

But I’m on the short side at 5’10” and slim framed/small shoulders.
Got a bit of a Dad Bod these days in my 40s.

Why not clean shaven? It'd take ten years off you.
 

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Why not clean shaven? It'd take ten years off you.
nah, a beard makes my jaw look bigger and squarer.
Plus I have a bit of turkey neck going on now as I age. I dye my beard tho, looks alright..

“maybe he’s born with it? Maybe it’s Just For Men…” ;):p
 

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nah, a beard makes my jaw look bigger and squarer.
Plus I have a bit of turkey neck going on now as I age. I dye my beard tho, looks alright..

“maybe he’s born with it? Maybe it’s Just For Men…” ;):p
I've got the grey in the beard too, around the chin, so I clean shave (fresh Mach3 blade every time) every four days. Grey is only really slightly visible on the fourth day in the right light.

Shaving is good for exfoliating the skin too..although too often and it's red bumps.
 

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This is my example of my sexualised texting.
I’m quite happy with this spin on her hinge relationship prompt of “working on my relationship goals”:D

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If she buys into that (which some do v much) then I just escalate w worlds and try turn her on more and more .

this can work pretty well ..and turn into a big romance novel/ fvck book role play.
Occasionally some women get mad aroused :devil: and will be down to come to my place and make the fantasy happen. :cool:

kinda a speed seduction approach w lots of descriptive sensual lingo. It can take a while tho and a bit time consuming.
 
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"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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This is my example of my sexualised texting.
I’m quite happy with this spin on her hinge relationship prompt of “working on my relationship goals”:D

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If she buys into that (which some do v much) then I just escalate w worlds and try turn her on more and more .

this can work pretty well ..and turn into a big romance novel/ fvck book role play.
Occasionally some women get mad aroused :devil: and will be down to come to my place and make the fantasy happen. :cool:

kinda a speed seduction approach w lots of descriptive sensual lingo. It can take a while tho and a bit time consuming.
Don't forget your next line - "the lotion goes in the basket"
 

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@Cheeky_James , If this is working for you, even if it's 1 out of every 10 women, then stick to it.

It's just the old shotgun theory but taken to the next level with today's app-driven dating market. We used to do this with Myspace and Bebo years back. Just remember, it can become tiresome with all the interactions that go nowhere. But if you're in a large enough city, it shouldn't matter.

These days I rely more on my social status and retired sporting status. I do have a Lagoon 410 in my App profiles and on Facebook, which gets me plenty of women wanting to look cool on a boat !!!

p.s Maybe I'm getting old but what is geomaxxing ?
 

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@Cheeky_James , If this is working for you, even if it's 1 out of every 10 women, then stick to it.

It's just the old shotgun theory but taken to the next level with today's app-driven dating market. We used to do this with Myspace and Bebo years back. Just remember, it can become tiresome with all the interactions that go nowhere. But if you're in a large enough city, it shouldn't matter.

These days I rely more on my social status and retired sporting status. I do have a Lagoon 410 in my App profiles and on Facebook, which gets me plenty of women wanting to look cool on a boat !!!

p.s Maybe I'm getting old but what is geomaxxing ?
What is the shotgun theory?
geomaxxing is moving to another country to increase your chances with women.
Nice job on the boat :up::up: that sh1t works for sure :cool:
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I do wonder about this Chadfishing /catfishing stuff

Like, if I tried dis strategy

(a) I catfished w my app profile, (to a degree but not completely )
Ie making myself a bit more handsome +buffer body in my pics, maybe added a tattoo or 2 (with software) and also stated I was 6 foot + tall..
So an 8-9/10 guy.

and then upon matching

(b) ran great sexualised flirting game/ sexual role
Play game to get the chick REALLY mentally and physically aroused…’dripping wet ‘ shall we say :devil:

Then if I got her over to my place … and then she opens the door and meets the real CJ…(the 7/10 CJ)

What are the odds she’ll still proceed to fvck me???

I mean she already made the mental effort and the physical effort to get there right? , and is super wet n horny..and has sexual fantasies playing in her head…she’s revving and good to go…

I reckon a good chance ?!

(Note to self : Must try this experiment :D:p)
 
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I do wonder about this Chadfishing /catfishing stuff

Like, if I tried dis strategy

(a) I catfished w my app profile, (to a degree but not completely )
Ie making myself a bit more handsome +buffer body in my pics, maybe added a tattoo or 2 (with software) and also stated I was 6 foot + tall..
So an 8-9/10 guy.

and then upon matching

(b) ran great sexualised flirting game/ sexual role
Play game to get the chick REALLY mentally and physically aroused…’dripping wet ‘ shall we say :devil:

Then if I got her over to my place … and then she opens the door and meets the real CJ…(the 7/10 CJ)

What are the odds she’ll still proceed to fvck me???

I mean she already made the mental effort and the physical effort to get there right? , and is super wet n horny..and has sexual fantasies playing in her head…she’s revving and good to go…

I reckon a good chance ?!

(Note to self : Must try this experiment :D:p)
Do you not think all this manipulation has been tried before, and this is what's leading to overall crapness of the apps due to lack of trust?

It's all been gamed already. AI text responses being used now as well.

You need to be everythingmaxxing rather than resorting to these tricks.
 

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Do you not think all this manipulation has been tried before, and this is what's leading to overall crapness of the apps due to lack of trust?

It's all been gamed already. AI text responses being used now as well.

You need to be everythingmaxxing rather than resorting to these tricks.
what is the AI stuff ? Men are using AI generated gamey text messages ?

well. There is some scope for it to work I think.
I pretty much do it currently albeit only slightly, on much a lower level. (I knock a few years off my age and use filtered pics)

Re the trust thing- tbh mate the % of relationships happening from apps is a much smaller slice of the pie.
And if the girls are looking for that , I’ll fail at step (b) tryna get sexual Yknow?

everythingmaxxing is valid strategy sure .
But even hard gym maxxing gains a guy about 0.5 of a point.

As the BP guys say “ there is no gym for face and height”. Which is true. Brutal but true :cry:

I’m mainly looking for hookups and ongoing casual/ FwB situations.. not traditional dating leading to relationships/life partners..
 

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I’m mainly looking for hookups and ongoing casual/ FwB situations.. not traditional dating leading to relationships/life partners..
Best strategy is to have a couple of funny exchanges then invite her to grab a drink in a neutral place then you sexualize things face to face rather than through texts

sexualizing too early might yield results from time to time but mainly from girls you do not really want to actually meet. To me is a really bad strategy

The chance of at least a decent looking girl getting horny through some texts on a app are extremely slim, so you will just loose a lot of opportunities out of laziness / fixation

text game should be only used for logistics and lighting up the mood early on, anything else becomes more and more uncalibrated
 

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Do you not think all this manipulation has been tried before, and this is what's leading to overall crapness of the apps due to lack of trust?

It's all been gamed already. AI text responses being used now as well.

You need to be everythingmaxxing rather than resorting to these tricks.
yeah, fair points

if you ask me, apps became crap mainly because plenty of of guys are uncalibrated and weird
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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