"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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How would you rate yourself?

How do you rate yourself overall

  • 10

    Votes: 4 9.3%
  • 9

    Votes: 10 23.3%
  • 8

    Votes: 13 30.2%
  • 7

    Votes: 8 18.6%
  • 6

    Votes: 3 7.0%
  • 5

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • 3-4

    Votes: 3 7.0%
  • 1-2

    Votes: 2 4.7%

  • Total voters
    43

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Ice882

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8. Need a six pack and more sleep. Increased confidence from the body + general wellness/positive vibes/improved wit from the sleep.

But I don't have time for those things right now.
 

blueline

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im a skinny broke-ass student

well dressed, however, i'm a 7.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Warrior74

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I'm a six and I know it. But my charisma and charm usually works well for me if a woman finds me halfway attractive.
 

Just a Shot Away

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Gayest thread ever. I'd rather hear a bunch of dudes swapping recipes and quilt patterns than talk about if they're hot or not, and if so, how hot.
 

S. Pryor

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Nobody here rates themselves as a five or below. That's funny considering the fact that this is a site for asking people how to get chicks.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Just a Shot Away

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S. Pryor said:
Nobody here rates themselves as a five or below. That's funny considering the fact that this is a site for asking people how to get chicks.
I don't get it. What's the correlation between one's looks and how good they are with women?
 

JdelaSilviera

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Just a Shot Away said:
I don't get it. What's the correlation between one's looks and how good they are with women?
None JSA, looks are completly irrelevant. That´s why, when you go to the club you see ugly skinny guys pulling chicks with ease. Tanned, muscular and good looking guys never get any....
The thing is, skinny guys are extremely confident because it´s mainstream that women go horny for them....it´s not because they are skinny that they are attracting chicks...

Back to reality...
Looks are the most reliable way to get girls, many women find the game talk stupid and silly (why do you think you see so many flakes here even when you are a challenge, playful, seductive and act manly?) , though there are also many that find it funny and attractive. But they all love good looks.

You can be considered good looking/physically attractive because: you have nice colors (skin,hair, eyes,) you have a cute face or a nice body.

For instance, guys with great eyes no matter how unsymmetrical is their face, have chicks garanteed for the rest of their life. I live in a country where most people have dark hair and eyes, every single blue eyed guy I know, even if is short or ugly, pulls chicks so easilly it´s crazy.....
 

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Ohh.. then i missrated my self...

I Gave my self a 6 on the LOOKS department, i think i am Slightly over averege, because i care about my looks, and do a loot to look the best everyday.

But overall, i think i am a 5 atually, my conversational skills SUCKS SO MUCH ... and i am not the best at socialising :)
 

S. Pryor

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Who rates themselves like this? Usually a rating scale is about looks. It's like a woman that has a good personality but she's ugly as ****. Would she be considered at ten? I'll put it to you like this, if I considered myself a "ten" or any other high ranking number, I'd say I'm a bad mutha****a! A number wouldn't come into play with or without looks considered.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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zekko

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I've always figured I was a 7. I've even been told I was a 7.
I figure I make good money so that bumps me up some, but I'm older so that bumps me back down. So I'm still a 7.
That seems to jibe with the quality of women I get, so that seems about right. I think value is the biggest factor when it comes to attracting women.

Petari said:
It looks like half the SOsuave is models and **** haha
Lol.
 

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10. ****ing dumbest question ever to ask a man like myself.
 

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I asked to rate yourself overall, not by your looks. I wanted to get a sense of how egotistical guys on here are.

This is about how you feel about yourself.

Obviously someone giving themselves a 9 or above rating is being egotistical, because otherwise he would be too busy enjoying an awesome life full of love rather than be here. Everyone that rated themselves a 9 or above, and even some 8's, should pay close attention to whats really going on around you instead of paying attention to that little voice inside your head, because that little voice has taken you on the wrong path. That little voice is lying to you if its telling you that are an awesome guy, you cant be, not if you're here.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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