"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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How would you rate yourself?

How do you rate yourself overall

  • 10

    Votes: 4 9.3%
  • 9

    Votes: 10 23.3%
  • 8

    Votes: 13 30.2%
  • 7

    Votes: 8 18.6%
  • 6

    Votes: 3 7.0%
  • 5

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • 3-4

    Votes: 3 7.0%
  • 1-2

    Votes: 2 4.7%

  • Total voters
    43

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Ice882

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8. Need a six pack and more sleep. Increased confidence from the body + general wellness/positive vibes/improved wit from the sleep.

But I don't have time for those things right now.
 

blueline

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im a skinny broke-ass student

well dressed, however, i'm a 7.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Warrior74

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I'm a six and I know it. But my charisma and charm usually works well for me if a woman finds me halfway attractive.
 

Just a Shot Away

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Gayest thread ever. I'd rather hear a bunch of dudes swapping recipes and quilt patterns than talk about if they're hot or not, and if so, how hot.
 

S. Pryor

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Nobody here rates themselves as a five or below. That's funny considering the fact that this is a site for asking people how to get chicks.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Just a Shot Away

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S. Pryor said:
Nobody here rates themselves as a five or below. That's funny considering the fact that this is a site for asking people how to get chicks.
I don't get it. What's the correlation between one's looks and how good they are with women?
 

JdelaSilviera

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Just a Shot Away said:
I don't get it. What's the correlation between one's looks and how good they are with women?
None JSA, looks are completly irrelevant. That´s why, when you go to the club you see ugly skinny guys pulling chicks with ease. Tanned, muscular and good looking guys never get any....
The thing is, skinny guys are extremely confident because it´s mainstream that women go horny for them....it´s not because they are skinny that they are attracting chicks...

Back to reality...
Looks are the most reliable way to get girls, many women find the game talk stupid and silly (why do you think you see so many flakes here even when you are a challenge, playful, seductive and act manly?) , though there are also many that find it funny and attractive. But they all love good looks.

You can be considered good looking/physically attractive because: you have nice colors (skin,hair, eyes,) you have a cute face or a nice body.

For instance, guys with great eyes no matter how unsymmetrical is their face, have chicks garanteed for the rest of their life. I live in a country where most people have dark hair and eyes, every single blue eyed guy I know, even if is short or ugly, pulls chicks so easilly it´s crazy.....
 

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Ohh.. then i missrated my self...

I Gave my self a 6 on the LOOKS department, i think i am Slightly over averege, because i care about my looks, and do a loot to look the best everyday.

But overall, i think i am a 5 atually, my conversational skills SUCKS SO MUCH ... and i am not the best at socialising :)
 

S. Pryor

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Who rates themselves like this? Usually a rating scale is about looks. It's like a woman that has a good personality but she's ugly as ****. Would she be considered at ten? I'll put it to you like this, if I considered myself a "ten" or any other high ranking number, I'd say I'm a bad mutha****a! A number wouldn't come into play with or without looks considered.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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zekko

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I've always figured I was a 7. I've even been told I was a 7.
I figure I make good money so that bumps me up some, but I'm older so that bumps me back down. So I'm still a 7.
That seems to jibe with the quality of women I get, so that seems about right. I think value is the biggest factor when it comes to attracting women.

Petari said:
It looks like half the SOsuave is models and **** haha
Lol.
 

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10. ****ing dumbest question ever to ask a man like myself.
 

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I asked to rate yourself overall, not by your looks. I wanted to get a sense of how egotistical guys on here are.

This is about how you feel about yourself.

Obviously someone giving themselves a 9 or above rating is being egotistical, because otherwise he would be too busy enjoying an awesome life full of love rather than be here. Everyone that rated themselves a 9 or above, and even some 8's, should pay close attention to whats really going on around you instead of paying attention to that little voice inside your head, because that little voice has taken you on the wrong path. That little voice is lying to you if its telling you that are an awesome guy, you cant be, not if you're here.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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