BongDuy
Master Don Juan
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"The Kiss of Death Mistake"
You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?
Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.
One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.
Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.
how would you approach women at the beach?
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"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
IKO69
Master Don Juan
Like any other place. You wait for choosing signals and then approach.
If you are feeling more bold, wait for a situation in which you can start up a friendly conversation and then gauge her interest. For example say there is a food/drink stand nearby and you both are in line, start a convo.
If you are feeling more bold, wait for a situation in which you can start up a friendly conversation and then gauge her interest. For example say there is a food/drink stand nearby and you both are in line, start a convo.
BongDuy
Master Don Juan
what about out in the water? what if they're with other guys as well?
heres a typical scenario:
me and my friends throw a football around in the ocean and my friend is a terrible thrower, so he throws it wildly and it hits next to a group of girls only. how could i have a convo with them?
heres a typical scenario:
me and my friends throw a football around in the ocean and my friend is a terrible thrower, so he throws it wildly and it hits next to a group of girls only. how could i have a convo with them?
scrouds
Master Don Juan
That's awfully nice of your friend. "Wanna play?" ...could work
BongDuy
Master Don Juan
wow haha so simple but i never thought of it. what if she says "no thank you" should i just forget about them or try to say something else?
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
LinkinParkROX
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Just forget about them. Dude...
You're busy having fun with your mates, their loss.
You're busy having fun with your mates, their loss.
everywomanshero
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This has happened a few times accidently. Once the woman was sitting at the waters edge and I just ploped down and started talking to her about bull****, ended up finding out she was down with her gf and her husband didn't come (green light), and I was able to meet up with her later on. Another time, some guy came up and said the girl liked me lol, so I went over and talked to her. She had a great body but the face wasn't too good, o well it was an easy one so what the hell. Women are definitely open to meeting a guy on the beach and you don't need any fancy story for this. Maybe I should go to the beach more often come to think of it
ALPHAROMEO
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Foot In The Door
have u heard of th FOOT IN THE DOOR tchni?
you ask her to look after your bag while u go for a dip
you come bacK HOPEFULLY thank her and get a convo going
check out FREEDMAN FRAZER " THE FOOT IN THE DOOR TECHNI "GOOGLE
you ask for a small favor she ll be much more enclined to be friendly after that ( CHECK OUT cognitive dissonance LEON FEISTINGER
have u heard of th FOOT IN THE DOOR tchni?
you ask her to look after your bag while u go for a dip
you come bacK HOPEFULLY thank her and get a convo going
check out FREEDMAN FRAZER " THE FOOT IN THE DOOR TECHNI "GOOGLE
you ask for a small favor she ll be much more enclined to be friendly after that ( CHECK OUT cognitive dissonance LEON FEISTINGER
BongDuy
Master Don Juan
dont you think thats a bit weird? lol i can imagine a girl asking for you to watch her bag, but when i go to the beach i usually never have much on me because its all in the car.
I guess ill just walk up to them and just start a convo somehow. haha
I guess ill just walk up to them and just start a convo somehow. haha
Havent posted here since march!
But, I made improvement, been learning alot, and improved in the game, so my posts here are more than time-wasting and keyboard jockeying. I can actually give advice now.
Like IKO said, wait for choosing signs.. But, don't just wait, be aware of your surroundings, have your mind and eyes where they should be. If you do that, you will give off a good vibe as wel as pick up choosing signals.
But, I made improvement, been learning alot, and improved in the game, so my posts here are more than time-wasting and keyboard jockeying. I can actually give advice now.
Like IKO said, wait for choosing signs.. But, don't just wait, be aware of your surroundings, have your mind and eyes where they should be. If you do that, you will give off a good vibe as wel as pick up choosing signals.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
BongDuy
Master Don Juan
DJVladdy said:
Im an asian dude, so im pretty short. Im not lean or cut, i have a good balance of muscle and "fat", so i dont look like a stick, nor do i look like a cake.
although i am trying to slim up so i can have some abs.