"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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How to work through her to get to her friensd?

TempestNight

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Met a Venezuelan chick from a store, she's about a 6/10, obviously she isn't my target but her friends are, she showed me some pictures of her friends and cousins and god they are gorgeous, easily 8+.

Had a "first date" with her on Friday, just a casual coffee meet up where we chatted. I think she is into me though, she asked me when we are gonna meet again before we parted ways. I said next week just to be ambiguous but she asked me what time.

My question is, how do I work it so that I become in the good friends zone so she invites me to her Venezuelan parties and stuff and introduce me to her hot friends? Never done anything like this.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Iceberg

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If she were already your friend, then it'd be easy.

But you're asking for a girl who thinks she's dating you to put you in the friend zone. THEN you're asking that once you're in the Friend Zone that she invite you to meet her friends. THEN you're going to game her friends, and THEN hope that they respond favorably.

It'd be easier to just go find random HB8+ girls than to get them through this particular girl. Too much work.
 

TempestNight

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Iceberg said:
If she were already your friend, then it'd be easy.

But you're asking for a girl who thinks she's dating you to put you in the friend zone. THEN you're asking that once you're in the Friend Zone that she invite you to meet her friends. THEN you're going to game her friends, and THEN hope that they respond favorably.

It'd be easier to just go find random HB8+ girls than to get them through this particular girl. Too much work.
You are absolutely right. But for the sake of discussion, let's say I'm bored, have nothing else better to do in my life and I want a challenge, how would you go about this?
 

Zerro

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Iceberg said:
If she were already your friend, then it'd be easy.

But you're asking for a girl who thinks she's dating you to put you in the friend zone. THEN you're asking that once you're in the Friend Zone that she invite you to meet her friends. THEN you're going to game her friends, and THEN hope that they respond favorably.

It'd be easier to just go find random HB8+ girls than to get them through this particular girl. Too much work.
Exactly, this is a rare case where the OP should have dove right into the friend zone in the first place.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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