"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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How to work through her to get to her friensd?

TempestNight

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Met a Venezuelan chick from a store, she's about a 6/10, obviously she isn't my target but her friends are, she showed me some pictures of her friends and cousins and god they are gorgeous, easily 8+.

Had a "first date" with her on Friday, just a casual coffee meet up where we chatted. I think she is into me though, she asked me when we are gonna meet again before we parted ways. I said next week just to be ambiguous but she asked me what time.

My question is, how do I work it so that I become in the good friends zone so she invites me to her Venezuelan parties and stuff and introduce me to her hot friends? Never done anything like this.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Iceberg

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If she were already your friend, then it'd be easy.

But you're asking for a girl who thinks she's dating you to put you in the friend zone. THEN you're asking that once you're in the Friend Zone that she invite you to meet her friends. THEN you're going to game her friends, and THEN hope that they respond favorably.

It'd be easier to just go find random HB8+ girls than to get them through this particular girl. Too much work.
 

TempestNight

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Iceberg said:
If she were already your friend, then it'd be easy.

But you're asking for a girl who thinks she's dating you to put you in the friend zone. THEN you're asking that once you're in the Friend Zone that she invite you to meet her friends. THEN you're going to game her friends, and THEN hope that they respond favorably.

It'd be easier to just go find random HB8+ girls than to get them through this particular girl. Too much work.
You are absolutely right. But for the sake of discussion, let's say I'm bored, have nothing else better to do in my life and I want a challenge, how would you go about this?
 

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Iceberg said:
If she were already your friend, then it'd be easy.

But you're asking for a girl who thinks she's dating you to put you in the friend zone. THEN you're asking that once you're in the Friend Zone that she invite you to meet her friends. THEN you're going to game her friends, and THEN hope that they respond favorably.

It'd be easier to just go find random HB8+ girls than to get them through this particular girl. Too much work.
Exactly, this is a rare case where the OP should have dove right into the friend zone in the first place.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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