"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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How to work through her to get to her friensd?

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Met a Venezuelan chick from a store, she's about a 6/10, obviously she isn't my target but her friends are, she showed me some pictures of her friends and cousins and god they are gorgeous, easily 8+.

Had a "first date" with her on Friday, just a casual coffee meet up where we chatted. I think she is into me though, she asked me when we are gonna meet again before we parted ways. I said next week just to be ambiguous but she asked me what time.

My question is, how do I work it so that I become in the good friends zone so she invites me to her Venezuelan parties and stuff and introduce me to her hot friends? Never done anything like this.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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If she were already your friend, then it'd be easy.

But you're asking for a girl who thinks she's dating you to put you in the friend zone. THEN you're asking that once you're in the Friend Zone that she invite you to meet her friends. THEN you're going to game her friends, and THEN hope that they respond favorably.

It'd be easier to just go find random HB8+ girls than to get them through this particular girl. Too much work.
 
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Iceberg said:
If she were already your friend, then it'd be easy.

But you're asking for a girl who thinks she's dating you to put you in the friend zone. THEN you're asking that once you're in the Friend Zone that she invite you to meet her friends. THEN you're going to game her friends, and THEN hope that they respond favorably.

It'd be easier to just go find random HB8+ girls than to get them through this particular girl. Too much work.
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You are absolutely right. But for the sake of discussion, let's say I'm bored, have nothing else better to do in my life and I want a challenge, how would you go about this?
 
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Iceberg said:
If she were already your friend, then it'd be easy.

But you're asking for a girl who thinks she's dating you to put you in the friend zone. THEN you're asking that once you're in the Friend Zone that she invite you to meet her friends. THEN you're going to game her friends, and THEN hope that they respond favorably.

It'd be easier to just go find random HB8+ girls than to get them through this particular girl. Too much work.
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Exactly, this is a rare case where the OP should have dove right into the friend zone in the first place.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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