backseatjuan
Banned
How to turn her on and get her out with three simple texts?
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
How to turn her on and get her out with three simple texts?
- Thread starter backseatjuan
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"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
Zion
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That key lock thing is the dumbest method I ever heard. Do not buy it.
logicallefty
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Something like this:
Lefty's Text 1: "Hi HB. This is Lefty here. Now that you have my number, please don't write on any bathrooms walls 'for a great time call Lefty', OK?"
HB: ((whatever she says..))
((Wait about a day to reply no exact time just 'a while'))
Lefty Text 2: I got all of these people calling me now wanting a 'great time' do you know anything about that???
HB: ((whatever she says))
((Wait about a day to reply.. no exact time just 'a while'))
Lefty Text 3: sorry i took me so long to get back to you. been busy answering all these calls and doing my usual saving of the world I always do... Can we just pick a time, day, place and meet? Be easier that way.
((setup date, be gone))
This lays the groundwork that you aren't a chump with nothing funny to say.
This shows her that you are confident about yourself.
This shows you are busy and have a life besides texting her
This gets you to the question of asking her out in 3 texts.
Edit: You could also concur that this shows a little bit of your polite side too, but not in a chupy way
I have actually done it exactly like this with success on more than one occasion.
Lefty's Text 1: "Hi HB. This is Lefty here. Now that you have my number, please don't write on any bathrooms walls 'for a great time call Lefty', OK?"
HB: ((whatever she says..))
((Wait about a day to reply no exact time just 'a while'))
Lefty Text 2: I got all of these people calling me now wanting a 'great time' do you know anything about that???
HB: ((whatever she says))
((Wait about a day to reply.. no exact time just 'a while'))
Lefty Text 3: sorry i took me so long to get back to you. been busy answering all these calls and doing my usual saving of the world I always do... Can we just pick a time, day, place and meet? Be easier that way.
((setup date, be gone))
This lays the groundwork that you aren't a chump with nothing funny to say.
This shows her that you are confident about yourself.
This shows you are busy and have a life besides texting her
This gets you to the question of asking her out in 3 texts.
Edit: You could also concur that this shows a little bit of your polite side too, but not in a chupy way
I have actually done it exactly like this with success on more than one occasion.
Zion
Senior Don Juan
I'm all for being cheeky but referencing the same joke twice is enough, 3 is too much.
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
backseatjuan
Banned
Online works as well?
logicallefty
Moderator
backseatjuan said:
Yes. IMO it's no different than texting. Especially if you do it from a phone.
backseatjuan
Banned
Ok, so let's say you are online dating site.
He HB. This is lefty. Now that you have my number....
But dude, she doesn't have your number. This don't sound legit.
He HB. This is lefty. Now that you have my number....
But dude, she doesn't have your number. This don't sound legit.
logicallefty
Moderator
Yeah I see your point. This was assuming you had exchanged numbers in real life. Will take another couple of messages to get her number online. Your goal online should always be to get the number.backseatjuan said:
backseatjuan
Banned
Hi, what's your number?
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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
logicallefty
Moderator
I prefer to add a little substances to my messages to chicks but the short, simple, and brief option can be good too.backseatjuan said:
Here is what I might say:
"Hi there. You seem interesting and I would love to shoot the sh|t with you. This message system gives me fits sometimes, the geeks that wrote it must have got something messed up. If you want to send me your number I will text you sometime before the 32nd of this month".
So you may be asking "So why before the 32nd of the month?"
Exactly! She will be wondering too.. If she asks what it means say "That's the day of each month that I behave like a perfect gentleman". And yeah it never comes does it. And I never behave like a perfect gentleman. lol
Key Lock is for guys who just don't get it. It's a great gimmick to sell a system to clueless guys. Unfortunately, these guys are still going for women who aren't highly interested in them because the guys feel that saying something specific is going to get them to like him more.
It's the illusion of action.
The actual material is good, but a true alpha proceeds from a truly abundant mindset, and would use the actual material ONLY TO RESPOND TO WOMEN ALREADY INTERESTED ENOUGH TO BE REACHING OUT TO HIM!!!
It's the illusion of action.
The actual material is good, but a true alpha proceeds from a truly abundant mindset, and would use the actual material ONLY TO RESPOND TO WOMEN ALREADY INTERESTED ENOUGH TO BE REACHING OUT TO HIM!!!