"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
How to pick up college girls
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- Start date
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
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nonchalant said:
Please tell me this is a joke...
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
LOL I was already laughing when I saw this thread, I've been trying for years and haven't got even close, so I somehow doubt there's a little magic secret waiting in the shadows. Tall, affluent, average-good looking white men take the women, the rest are just scraps fought out amongst the rest where a few get lucky. That's what I've learnt and that's what I know. The rest is just talk and BS.wutangfinancial said:
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I'd say those things apply to me now due to my experiences and basically giving up, but for the first two years and certainly the first year I was confident, bubbly, stylish etc. All I got was 1/2 kiss closes, the odd number and just faffing about with little interest. I've tried changing things and doing CA's, again I got to a certain level then it never progresses due to low IL. I've tried and tried but the girl doesn't show interest for 1-1 dates. I just see tall affluent white guys with gf's whilst me and my friends never get anything, so what do you want me to think?Corona said:
At my best, that's me looking good, stylish, confident and chirpy, all I can do is get numbers and kiss closes. It never goes further, and that's when I'm at my best so my appearance and sociability is highest.
I've still never had anyone on here tell me why the girls never date me 1-1, but that's not their perogative.
MM
Well, you can either give up, or accept that it's a numbers game and keep gaming.Mad Manic said:
At best, you might get a date with a girl that's really into you and everything works out perfect, and at worst, you will gain experience and find out what works and what doesn't work at gaming girls.
You not being able to progress past a couple dates and a kiss close signifies some problems with your game (or a problem with the girl, on occasion). If it was a problem with society, you would have never got the date in the first place (numbers don't mean anything).
Why would you want to date? I can't think of anything worse.Mad Manic said:
You gave up after 2 years when you were getting some success. I hope you don't do that with bodybuilding.
It's been over two years of nothing for me, but just now things are falling into place.
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
It is seriously very frustrating for me to hear you guys go on about height and race. When I (6'2, white, athletic) have to watch my short and black friends (Indian and pacific islander) pickup HB8's HB9's with ease while I go home to bat.
I honestly believe black guys have it easer.
You have other issues.
I honestly believe black guys have it easer.
You have other issues.
I never got any dates. I'd just chat the girls up for a fair while, sometimes get a number, occassionally a kiss close, nothing more. I've gone through spells of trying really hard and just getting nowhere. The girls seem interested but once I start to try and initiate a date it goes nowhere. Sometimes I don't try to initiate anything and they still don't want anything to do with me.Corona said:
As I said I've given up, I've accepted that I'm not the type that girls want. I've looked at couples in the streets and whatnot and it's very clear I am very different to most of the guys the girls are with. It's not surprising that me and my friends get nothing, because we aren't anything like the guys with gfs.
Whether it's a society problem or my problem, lets just say its a compatibility thing. What I am just doesn't work given our society, to say which is 'right' or 'wrong' is pointless debate.
MM
Maybe it's just a case of different places having different moulds for guys/girls as to what's considered desirable. The 'cool black guy' thing works much better in the US than in the UK. In either case, I'm neither black nor white so I'd never fit in any sort of ideals.wolf116 said:
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I tried that, it's not working for me... I mean I just stand there and look like a GQ model, but people just ask me "Why are you standing there and pouting?"wutangfinancial said:
...not at all the response I was going for...jeez, what's wrong with these girls?
I'm in Australia and my friend is half cast and it is not considered "cool" to be Indian or islander. They just ooze charisma and confidence.Mad Manic said:
Maybe you don't see them walking down the street hand in hand with a little white girl because they don't care for that. They are players and only go for ONS's. But they have had white GF's as well.
"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
ARrocket
Master Don Juan
wolf116 said:
Dude, Indian and Pacific Islander are NOT synonymous with black....
Then why can't I see them at night unless they smile?ARrocket said:
African Americans have it the easiest thanks to Hollywood.
If you put MM in a tall, white body he will still have the same problems, just a different excuse.
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as for the dork in the vid, I will join about 2 clubs next semester.
Also, same person in a different environment = same problems. Wherever you go, you stay the same because of trait characteristics unless you choose to make a difference in your confidence. Inner confidence & happiness = successful external projection of thy self.
as for the dork in the vid, I will join about 2 clubs next semester.
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I was really just being sarcastic though, to show how full of crap you are.
Your problem is you don't have a healthy sense of humor or sarcasm. Either that or you're just going after shallow chicks that think happiness is a Porsche and a set of diamond earrings.
And durrrr life isn't fair. What the hell made you think it was? Hollywood?
I was really just being sarcastic though, to show how full of crap you are.
Your problem is you don't have a healthy sense of humor or sarcasm. Either that or you're just going after shallow chicks that think happiness is a Porsche and a set of diamond earrings.
And durrrr life isn't fair. What the hell made you think it was? Hollywood?
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.