How to NEXT after she disrespects you

[STR8UP]

It's just not a good feeling to me knowing someone out there has gotten the best to me and all I've managed to do in response is the silent treatment. Sure "thoughts" don't hurt me, but then you could go on forever with that sort of logic. Oh I "lived well." That's my revenge! What if she lived well too and doesn't give a sh1t? Now if i ground her into the ground through public humiliation or something, then she'll give a sh1t. My own personal satisfaction is met if I exact revenge.

I know it isn't a good feeling. I've been that guy.

But you have to understand one thing, and that's the fact that no matter how much she wronged you SHE FEELS NO REMORSE in fact. she's likely to BLAME you more often than not.

So what happens when you give her a piece of your mind is that you hand over your remaining power. It DRAINS you. She gets the satisfaction of knowing that you meant so much to her that she could get such a strong emotional reaction from you. Women GET OFF on stuff like this. I'm dead serious.

If you gave her a piece of your mind and she realized the error of her ways it would be one thing. But have you EVER scolded a woman and gotten anything remotely resembling remorse? No, because they aren't capable of accepting blame. They will walk away thinking you are an ass hole, and you walk away still pissed. Lose-lose.

I have an ex from years ago it STILL bugs me knowing she got away with some sh1t and i didn't do a damn thing. I still have the sex video of her with a guy on my computer [exacted from her computer w/o her knowledge]. I'm over her, don't really give a sh1t about her emotionally... but knowing she got one over on me while I just held my d1ck taking the "high road" is annoying to this day. I mostly just don't want exposed to legalities, but legal revenges, what's the big deal?

Trust me....nothing can compare to the feelings I got when my ex started going behind my back and blatantly lying about it. She basically turned from Jeckyll to Hyde trying to cover her own ass. Then to stick a knife in MY back her last words were something to the effect of "I can't beleive I spent two years with you. I hope no woman ever again has to go through what you put me through." Wow. And SHE was the one who cheated on ME.

I had some pics of her fingering that beautiful, wet little pu$$y of hers that I could have done something with, but really, what would that have gotten ME? It would have just shown how childish I was. It would have been a hollow victory.

I actually kind of regret having destroyed the pics now that I decided to actually build my own little homemade porn collection, but thats a story for another thread.....

I'd really like this explained without karma nonsense being mentioned (since most of the bad people i know prosper pretty well)

And for the record it has nothing to do with "karma" for me. I simply don't care to give any more of myself to someone who doesn't deserve it.

 

[samspade]

The only time words are needed is if you just aren't feeling it and she deserves an explanation. In a case like this you are being a Man for being sensitive to someone's feelings. If she fukks you over there's nothing to gain (actually a lot to lose) through the use of words.

STR8UP, this will be one of those little golden rules I file in the back of my brain. Well said.

 

[johnnyrem]

STR8UP Posted:

"So what happens when you give her a piece of your mind is that you hand over your remaining power. It DRAINS you. She gets the satisfaction of knowing that you meant so much to her that she could get such a strong emotional reaction from you. Women GET OFF on stuff like this. I'm dead serious.

If you gave her a piece of your mind and she realized the error of her ways it would be one thing. But have you EVER scolded a woman and gotten anything remotely resembling remorse? No, because they aren't capable of accepting blame. They will walk away thinking you are an ass hole, and you walk away still pissed. Lose-lose."

This is damn straight advice.

Truer words were never spoken. This is my experience as well. Gentlemen, read this and commit it to memory. It WILL happen to you.

Better to shaddap, and let your actions of censure do the talking for you.

Incidentally, the aformentioned claims of "needing to train" respectful behavior into women is twaddle.

No woman NEEDS proper behavior "trained" into her. She knows damn well she's dissing you, and "training" doesn't have a damn thing to do with it. She wants to know if YOU know she's dissing you, and more importantly, what are you gonna do about it?

 

[STR8UP]

I made the mistake last weekend of opening my mouth a little too much when a chick dissed me.

It wasn't a deal breaker, but in retrospect I should have done less talking. There are plenty of ways to deliver a message without having to utter a word. Women do it all the time. Men can play the same game.

No woman NEEDS proper behavior "trained" into her. She knows damn well she's dissing you, and "training" doesn't have a damn thing to do with it.

I agree about the training part, but I'm not so sure that women always KNOW they are dissing you. I think women truly are clueless when it comes to some of the "lesser" offenses. They get away with so much sh!t they don't realize they are behaving badly.

She wants to know if YOU know she's dissing you, and more importantly, what are you gonna do about it?

On more serious offenses I agree with this 100%. This is better known as a "sh!t test". Start kicking and screaming, you fail.

 

[Luveno]

If anyone, be it man or woman, wrongs me in such a way that I renounce all trust and faith that I had in them, I completely cut off all contact without explanation immediately.


Words at this point are useless. You have been wronged by a person who does not respect you. Thus, this person's presence is now disadvantageous to you. You can either try to gain her respect, or eliminate her from your life. The most effective option for gaining her respect is, ironically, eliminating her from your life.

You should not care about her opinion of you at this point. What's done is done, and she has proven her worthlessness to you. Thus, she should be jettisoned without hesitation. There are far too many attractive women on this planet for one to be considered a rare commodity.

By encountering her with words and explanations, however harsh or logical they may be, you are giving her the satisfaction that she broke through your alpha-male exterior and got to you. You are taking time out of your busy day to scold her over how she hurt your feelings, which is a silly move. Instead of making her feel remorse, you will make her feel as if she can get whatever she wants, whenever she wants it.

If after your disappearance she comes back to apologize or make it up to you, you can use her guilt(or more commonly wounded pride) to meet your own ends, knowing full well she is merely a tool in your search for pleasure and a better life.

In conclusion, if you are wronged by someone, remove them from your life entirely.

 

[mrRuckus]

So what happens when you give her a piece of your mind is that you hand over your remaining power. It DRAINS you. She gets the satisfaction of knowing that you meant so much to her that she could get such a strong emotional reaction from you. Women GET OFF on stuff like this. I'm dead serious.

That's not what i'm talking about though. No revenge in the form of words. Words aren't going to mean sh1t to her.

I'm talking about doing something for my own personal satisfaction.

It would have just shown how childish I was.

WHY is it childish? No one will explain this. People just say it is so.

but really, what would that have gotten ME?

It might not get YOU anything, but for me it would get me personal satisfaction and I still to this day wouldn't be annoyed that I never did anything.

I don't give a damn about minor things and getting even. But if you cheat on me and/or lie to me for months on end and totally waste my fvcking time I'd think of myself as a damn ***** if I just let you get away free. Isn't this why we have justice?! Even god in the bible gets revenge!!

There's that whole thing about revenge being a dish best served cold. That has to do with not even letting the person know that YOU were the cause of her misfortune, but you still get some peace of mind knowing you didn't hide your head in the sand when someone trifled with you.

"Oh people, know that you have committed great sins. If you ask me what proof I have for these words, I say it is because I am the punishment of God. If you had not committed great sins, God would not have sent a punishment like me upon you.''

-- Genghis Kahn, Bukhara 1220


"If you prick us, do we not bleed?
If you tickle us, do we not laugh?
If you poison us, do we not die?
And if you wrong us, shall we not revenge?''

-- William Shakespeare,

 

[jophil28]

There are plenty of ways to deliver a message without having to utter a word. Women do it all the time. Men can play the same game.

Indeed, there are several ways to deliver a message. IT all depends on the setting and the sin. The ways that women do things are a poor recommendation STR8uP,

I disagree that the "silent treatment" is the universally superior method.
THis works well ONLY if you have let her know what behaviors of her piss you off. Then if she fukks up again, you just walk away.Evey the dumbest woman will usually tie the two together.
However, If you just sulk off into the distance after she disses with some obscure actions on her part , what does that achieve ? SHe thinks you are a pouty child because you just acted like one, and you are churning in your gutful of resentment. Now THAT is childish.
Silently walking away does not work well in that setting. She needs to KNOW why you are walking.

I also fail to see how almighty important it is to some here to NEVER let a woman know that you are as mad as a hornet. If I am chewing a woman out for gross disrespect, I am usually one minute away from dumping her. Why should I care if she gets some "satisfaction" out of seeing me angry. Why do you guys CARE what she thinks or what she gets out of it ? Funnily enough most women do NOT get a buzz out of seeing a man angry, they are mostly very distressed that a man DISAPPROVES of them.

Seems to me that worrying about what a woman "feels" is also what women do... kind of a girly mindset....you are focussed on what she thinks and feels rather that what you think and feel.
THis woman is about to be history - who cares ???

 

[CFERD]

I agree with J, the silient treament is not always the universal method. I also agree with srt8's posts. Seeing as I am currently dealing with the thread's title in my life, I am curious what is the best approach. Short of seeing her once in awhile at work, I've nexted by going silent, walking away. I had made it clear where I thought her bahavoir was second rate, a few weeks past in conversation. I never felt the desire to give her the verbal lashing as some have suggested. I walked because this particular BPD/emotional vampire turned out to be in need of a next. For my own sanity. I am not worried in the least how she feels about it. I do however consider her perception of my actions because I do have to see her once in awhile at work. I have been keeping it polite and very short, the last thing I want to do is further feed her ego. I avoid running into her as best I can. The N/C otherwise is all about me. Last time she sucked me back in after a month. I have a feeling she will try again, this time around I wil ignore. I'm certainly not making the same mistake twice. From what I can tell, she doesn't seem to know what to make of the silent treament, I know she felt like I was her puppet from the attention she had been getting. Since cutting the strings, she looks somewhat distraught and confused from the contact and attention takeaway. Sucks to be her. I haven't replied to many threads, as I have little to add advice wise. I'm still trying to figure out how to get over a BPD chick, I'm finding it alot harder than a typical girl, I started by nexting. Do you think walking away is the best way to move on from a toxic person, I didn't feel she deserved any more effort on my part. Besies, they only hear the words they choose to.

 

[STR8UP]

I'm talking about doing something for my own personal satisfaction.

Maybe it's just me, but I don't get off on getting revenge on a chick. It wouldn't provide me with an ounce of satisfaction to punish a woman that obviously gives two sh!ts about me.

You use the video as an example? Would you really be satisfied if you were to send that to her parents, friends, current b/f?

It wouldn't teach her a lesson, it would only show how spiteful you are.

WHY is it childish? No one will explain this. People just say it is so.

A real man does not let any one woman have so much power over him that he has to resort to "getting even" to satisfy his damaged ego.

It might not get YOU anything, but for me it would get me personal satisfaction and I still to this day wouldn't be annoyed that I never did anything.

You know what? If a chick cheated on me and I decided to fukk her best friend (or worst enemy) who always wanted me to get back at her, THEN dump her, I would get satisfaction from that. An eye for an eye? Yea, maybe. But to go to such great lengths to try to reclaim part of my ego....I have better things to do with my time. Just move on.

There's that whole thing about revenge being a dish best served cold. That has to do with not even letting the person know that YOU were the cause of her misfortune, but you still get some peace of mind knowing you didn't hide your head in the sand when someone trifled with you.

It's not about putting your head in the sand, it's about doing something constructive with your time rather than dwelling on how some chick wronged you and plotting some sort of scheme to "make her pay". That's what WOMEN do.

 

[Jitterbug]

You piss a chick (that you are/were involved with) off most when you're indifferent towards her anyway.

 

[Mr. Me]

WHY is it childish? No one will explain this.

Because it's what little kids do? "He took my leggos! So I took his crayons!"

Isn't this why we have justice?

Restitution in the judicial system isn't exactly "revenge". It's about seeking an equitable award for injury/damages suffered, of which the route to remedy has been tried and true in the court system by a set of laws, rules and regulations proscribed and agreed to by society down through the ages, and sometimes juried. Revenge, by comparison, is one person doing whatever harm they wish to another in retaliation to anything real or imagined, without constraint and without any governing body over them.

The problem with revenge is that it's venting. Five minutes after you get the satisfaction of having your ex's career destroyed by your machinations, your anger would well up again and need more release. This is why people can keep grudges and manage to stay angry for years and continually hound the other person with their personal vendetta against them: they create their own fuel. So, any act of revenge is ultimately not satisfying enough.

Another problem is that whatever harm you plan can also backfire. It could go awry. It could hurt someone you didn't intend to hurt, it could blow up in your face. Maybe even very seriously so.

Yet another problem is that you could end up in prison if you break any laws in your revenge plan, and then end up sitting in a small cell for a bunch of years while your cheating ex and her lover have a grand old time and you're viewed as just a psycho loser to the world.

Weird thing about revenge is that, apparently, the "satisfaction" feeling of hatching up the revenge plots comes from the brain releasing "feel good" endorphins when doing so. The danger here is that you're training your brain to feel good when you're thinking about doing harm, so you're conditioning yourself to get off being like a thug.

That you may think of yourself as being a fool by letting someone get away with doing you wrong is actually more a self-esteem issue than anything else. You're not a fool unless you think you are. Even the smartest of us can be duped every now and then. Just because someone cheats us doesn't make us the fool, it simply makes them out to be the cheat. We're fools if we knowingly then stick around for more abuse. Like the old saying goes, "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me."

Hence, if we don't stick around, it's because we walked.

 

[STR8UP]

I disagree that the "silent treatment" is the universally superior method.

I didn't say the silent treatment is always the best way, I said that covertly communicating your dissatisfaction will provide a better result the vast majority of the time.

I have never, ever, EVER gotten ANYWHERE using words. Most of the time it makes you look weak and feel weak.

THis works well ONLY if you have let her know what behaviors of her piss you off. Then if she fukks up again, you just walk away.Evey the dumbest woman will usually tie the two together.
However, If you just sulk off into the distance after she disses with some obscure actions on her part , what does that achieve ? SHe thinks you are a pouty child because you just acted like one, and you are churning in your gutful of resentment. Now THAT is childish.
Silently walking away does not work well in that setting. She needs to KNOW why you are walking.

This is assuming that she accepts responsibility for her actions. I have yet to meet a woman who will own up to anything. Women will fukk you over and in their eyes it is ALWAYS your fault. Women are only "sorry" when you take something away from them. For the fraction of a percent of the time your words might actually penetrate her thick skull, you're gonna expend massive amounts of energy on the other 99.9% who will NEVER get it.

I also fail to see how almighty important it is to some here to NEVER let a woman know that you are as mad as a hornet. If I am chewing a woman out for gross disrespect, I am usually one minute away from dumping her.

If the offense is THAT serious (cheating, BIG lies, etc.) she will know what she did was wrong. She won't admit it was wrong, which is why it is futile to use words. In this type of situation by far the best way to drive a point home is to WALK. You yell and scream....she denies she did anything wrong, and you go around in circles. You WALK AWAY, and she chases you down and gets the point.

You have no leverage against a woman when you are standing in front of her. It is only when you are headed for the door that the tables turn and YOU are back in the drivers seat.

Why should I care if she gets some "satisfaction" out of seeing me angry. Why do you guys CARE what she thinks or what she gets out of it ? Funnily enough most women do NOT get a buzz out of seeing a man angry, they are mostly very distressed that a man DISAPPROVES of them.

Wrong.

It's not about what she thinks, it's about getting the life sucked out of you when you try to make a woman understand that she is wrong by telling her so.

A woman will only become distressed when you show her that you are willing to cut her out of your life. So few guys are willing to do that. Women KNOW that most guys will put up with a lot of sh!t for a piece of ass, and that's a big part of the reason why women refuse to be held accountable.

Like I said, if you are standing in front of her, you have very little leverage. Turn your back on her and it's whole different ballgame.

Seems to me that worrying about what a woman "feels" is also what women do... kind of a girly mindset....you are focussed on what she thinks and feels rather that what you think and feel.
THis woman is about to be history - who cares ???

Basically what you are saying is that she's gonna be gone anyway, so it will make you feel better to "get it off your chest".

Think about this for a minute.

You catch your girl cheating on you. You yell and scream at her ("I can't believe you did this to me after all we've been through!"), she denies it, cries a few fake tears, then pleads with you not to leave. You walk out the door. Wow, you really taught her a lesson!

What you SHOULD have done is walked out the door without uttering a word. Your silence will speak volumes. When you show her that she didn't deserve another second of your time, you will fukk with her mind SO BAD she will be an absolute wreck if she ever cared about you at all.

THAT'S how you get "revenge".

 

[samspade]

Some great advice here, gents. I agree with Mr. Me, Jitterbug, Str8Up, et. al.

Silence is golden.

 

[Mr. Me]

Women KNOW that most guys will put up with a lot of sh!t for a piece of ass, and that's a big part of the reason why women refuse to be held accountable.

I'd say that women know that most guys will put up with a lot of sh!t for a piece of ass and that's a big part of the reason why women feel free to dole out a lot of sh1t to most guys.

they are mostly very distressed that a man DISAPPROVES of them.

The women that disrespect you either have poor character traits or they don't love/respect you sufficiently enough to care, which is why it doesn't bother them to diss you. Since they don't care, when you lecture them or speak sternly or whatever, it doesn't matter to them because... they don't care.

True, they still may not want to be thought of as "the bad person", but be "very distressed" over it if you do disapprove of them? Nah, not the ones who don't care sufficiently for you. They'll rationalize why it's perfectly fine for them to have behaved the way they did and likely blame you for their behavior anyway.

Hate and love are two sides of the same coin; they both signify emotional attachment. When you're emotionally attached, you're likely to show anger (unless you know how to control yourself). Indifference signifies no emotional attachment. You don't need to let them know how you feel, you don't need to give them a piece of your mind, you don't need to hear them apologize, you don't need anything from them. That's all about seeking validation from them for how you feel grieved by them.

When you walk out without looking back, they see a man with significant self-worth and self-love. It's very powerful. You walk away with your dignity and respect intact.

It's also powerful because if you choose to argue, that's her game; that's her world. She'll twist logic and invent rationalizations and blur the topic and diffuse with tangents and displays of emotions and dangle her feminine wiles or try a power struggle by threatening the relationship or putting on a strong offense. She'll bring up injustices, real or imagined, you did to her on your second date that you no longer recall. It's a losing battle. You have to be a crafty attorney to go up against her. Even if you "win" the argument, you still lose by virtue of having brought on the argument.

Look how easy words are to manipulate and utter nothing at all substantial with and yet WIN:

She sobs, "I know you're right and I don't know WHY I keep screwing up! Wah! Wah! You're like... you're like the most wonderful guy I've ever known! Wah! Wah! You're so good to me! Wah!!! I wouldn't blame you if you hated me and never wanted to see me again! Wah! Wah!" at which point most guys soften up figuring they've been too tough, take her in their arms, stroke her hair while she sobs into their chests and say, "Okay hun, okay. Take a deep breath, we'll work this out..."

Game Over.

But when you act (by walking and voting with your feet) rather than speak, then that creates a very real void, an absence, a vacuum if you will. It's then that she realizes this is a very real loss and she didn't win this time. You're no longer there. She's the loser this time and...

...THAT'S something women generally DON'T experience. So that gets to them in a way that showing you're upset never would.

 

[jophil28]

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What you SHOULD have done is walked out the door without uttering a word. Your silence will speak volumes. When you show her that she didn't deserve another second of your time, you will fukk with her mind SO BAD she will be an absolute wreck if she ever cared about you at all.

THAT'S how you get "revenge".

I believe that you believe all this.

You will not "fukk with her mind" in the slightest because if she cared or respected you at all she would not have cheated or lied in the first place.
You continue to hold the view that your silent retreat will "speak volumes" to a woman whose actions said that she could care less if she lost you. Duh !

However you seem to insist that walking away in a silent pout is manly and speaking your mind is childish and immature.

Do what works for you.

 

[STR8UP]

I believe that you believe all this.

You will not "fukk with her mind" in the slightest because if she cared or respected you at all she would not have cheated or lied in the first place.

Absolutely untrue.

A woman's actions are not 100% dictated by her interest level in a man.

Yes, the higher her interest, the less likely she is to stray. If she's totally into you, she will be VERY unlikely to cheat. But after being in a relationship for a period of time, even if her interest level drops low enough to allow her to cheat, she will STILL feel something when you walk away. WHAT she feels depends upon how you handle yourself. If you throw a temper tantrum, she knows she still has a grip on you. If she commits a "relationship felony" and you're going to send her away anyway. You gain absolutely ZIP by telling her you are hurt, disappointed, that she did something that was WRONG. It doesn't matter what you say, she is gonna hear "blah, blah, blah, I'm weak, blah, blah, I need you, blah, blah, you can cut me like a knife, blah, blah".

Lets say her interest level is so low that she has NO feeling for you, and you breaking up with her was simply the last straw that sent her over the edge and into the arms of her new lover. Lets say she's THAT far gone. What exactly does it accomplish to "scold" her?

So basically, if a woman has ANY feeling for you whatsoever, the WORST thing you can do is try to fight an emotional fight with reason. Women don't fight reasonably. You know that as well as I do. You can't appeal to her logical side, because whatever "logic" a woman does possess, it isn't even in the same UNIVERSE as she is when a situation like this comes up.

You have to fight fire with fire. YOU CAN'T MAKE A WOMAN REMORSEFUL THROUGH WORDS.

You continue to hold the view that your silent retreat will "speak volumes" to a woman whose actions said that she could care less if she lost you. Duh !

However you seem to insist that walking away in a silent pout is manly and speaking your mind is childish and immature.

If you think of it as a "silent retreat" or a "pout" you don't understand what I am saying.

It has nothing to do with pouting. You are ASSERTING yourself with the only thing that has any possibility of hitting her where it hurts which also happens to be the only way that will allow you to retain your dignity in the process.

As you said....do what works for you. All I know is every time I tried to reprimand a woman verbally I walked away feeling weak and defeated, and every time I walked away without trying to get the last word, at the very least it allowed me to retain my dignity.

 

[STR8UP]

"I am sorry." is woman talk for - " Please quit being upset and annoyed at me. Just go quiet and pretend that everything is OK, I am uncomfortable being criricized. I feel icky.. This should not be happening to ME because I really do not EVER think that I am wrong. I FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE hearing youy getting annoyed at me.
( NOTE -This is all about HER feelings - NOT her wrongdoing which precipitated the guys upset.)

This was written over year ago but I must have missed it.....

This idea that women feel "icky" when you set them straight is the root of your misguided opinions on this subject.

She doesn't feel "icky". She doesn't feel sorry. She will do ANYTHING to rationalize her behavior, and any attempt by you to correct her will only result in resentment and a decrease in interest on her part.

If, on the other hand, you demonstrate your willingness to cut her ass out of your life in half a second, if she has ANY feeling for you whatsoever she will chase you to the ends of the earth to make amends. If she's already beyond the point of no return, she will at least know that she couldn't get the better of you.

 

[Knight's Cross]

At the very end, when I was ready to trebuchet my ex-bpd for good I used VU's tactic. I planned my final act with cunning surprise and extreme measure. You see, she had called, texted, and e-mailed me her tale of woe for months. October of last year thru february of this year. In October I had pulled a Houdini. I disappeared on her. I gave her one message then, saying goodbye. After the months of her haranguing me, I set my plan in motion.

First, I directed my lawyer to send her a cease and desist letter (amazingly it postmarked 2 days later on Valentines day). Second, before she recieved the letter I returned a call of hers telling her to call. She texted that I sounded angry. I replied,"No, I just needed time to think." The trap was set, she believed the drawbridge to my heart was down and made her call. I know she was only looking to sink her claws back into my flesh. I took her call, and after pleasantries, told her "NEVER CALL ME AGAIN, DO YOU UNDERSTAND". You could literally hear the sigh of abandonement in her voice when she replied. "Yes". I then told her to Never come near me again. She hung up and 1 week later was driving by my home.

On to step 3) I called the Sherriff and they came and payed me a visit. The funny part is it was a female officer. While the officer was taking my report, my phone was being barraged with messages from the BPD, asking if she could swing back by.....Ohh how I had hoped she would. Alas, the officer took note of the messages and advised me to seek legal counsel. All of the BPD's behavior was illegal. Now I have a police report on her actions. The next day she again came to my home. I talked with her letting her know that it was over. That the police knew of her activities, and that I was not going to back down. That if she did not leave I'd again call the police, and move forward with a stalking protective order.

Walking away works, albeit some women won't take it lightly. The BPD's are the dangerous ones. If you are pulling a breakaway and you suspect she's not going to take it well, have a plan. Inform your neighbors, have witnesses to your wherabouts, and by all means strike first legally and with police protection if you think a woman is going to go Fatal attraction on you.

What I've learned at SS is that I should have dumped the above woman/child in the very beginning. If I was aware of such shaming, guilt tactics and not such a AFC I could have made the move quicker. Disrespect is a character flaw in both men and women. If it comes at you from another person, realize you don't own it. It is not yours to fix. Face it people only change their behavior out of necessity. If disrespect has worked in the past, they will continue to do it. You are not the first person that they have used it on, and it truly shows you a underlying issue that's far deeper than the momentary impasse that you are experiencing with the individual. You now know their operating system. Resume contact at your own expense. Ask yourself, if you hold a higher standard why tolerate it. On a corrolary if you hold that high standard, are you yourself meeting it?

KC

 

[thechallenger]

There's no better way to get your point across than to not even try.

precisly
pretend as if she just got fuggn ugly and fat and helpless
get outta dodge city as fast as possible
shell sense your complete lack of interest
and feel totally insignificant in your life

 

[betterthandead]

usually when i get a "i'm busy" or no response. I pretty much write them off or if they are chatty, i just them i'm having fun washing the toilet, much better time than going out with them. of course i do not respond or go much further from that.