"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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How to message, use Tinder and Bumble properly.

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I don't use Tinder and Bumble except maybe one or twice a week just out of boredom so not a lot comes out of it. Anyway I did have a couple cute women like me on Tinder so I liked them back and sent them messages. One is 45 miles away but a solid 8 and the other one a 7. Anyway, I kept my message short just said I like what I read/saw and asked them if they want to text. Did I write too short of message? Should I do it like match.com messages I do and make them long messages with a lot of stuff in it or is bumble and Tinder supposed to be shorter messages?

What is the reply rate typically on Tinder and Bumble to when a person liked you first and you liked them back and wrote them a message?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Your message sucks. I'm just being honest with you. Women get messages like that all the time on Tinder. I use a funny open ended question. I get a lot of replies to my opener even if it ends up going nowhere after that. You need to be unique and stand out more with your opener. You shouldn't ever be typing out long messages on OLD. Keep it short and simple.

You can't compare your reply rate with someone else's. Everyone is different. It depends on your pics and your opener.
 

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Your message sucks. I'm just being honest with you. Women get messages like that all the time on Tinder. I use a funny open ended question. I get a lot of replies to my opener even if it ends up going nowhere after that. You need to be unique and stand out more with your opener. You shouldn't ever be typing out long messages on OLD. Keep it short and simple.

You can't compare your reply rate with someone else's. Everyone is different. It depends on your pics and your opener.
Why do they only allow a small number of pics to be uploaded? On those apps a lot of the women only have like 3 pics. At least the ones around here.
 

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You match with a woman, so then you ask her if she wants to text.

Like YoungOG said I'm just gonna be honest, I can't decide yet whether you are a relatively skilled troll or just as stupid as your threads and posts here imply. And you are 35? God help you, whatever is the case.
 
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"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Well I brushed my Tinder profile up today, changed my profile pic and spent a couple hours this afternoon tonight on it swipping. So far I got 5 likes/matches. Mostly HB7 on up. 4 of the 5 profiles look real and local too. Just had an HB7 23 yr old like me back and she replied to my message and chatting right now via the app. Lets see how this goes.
 

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So since Im not that familiar with Tinder what are some nice first messages to send that are flirty but not over the top pervy and to sound friendly in general and get them interested?
 

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As a seasoned Tinder athlete I can give you few tips.

It doesn't really matter what you say. If the girls wanted to talk to you she will reply to hi or a 7 page memo.

Make sure your pictures are on point. Clear, and very well dressed. Make sure you're having fun somewhere exciting.

Women for some odd reason don't like to give phone out too quick but if you wait to long they might lose interest so somehow you have to gauge the conversation and ask when the time is right. Or sometimes they will just give it to you.

Try not to text immediately or every day. Trust me.
 

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Actually I'm glad you made another online dating post.
Now I can see where you stand.... nowhere, you're struggling, you got no dates, those that you get are platonic.
Online dating does not bring you sex.
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for the opener use none validating opener which requires her to look at your profile. This is true for all online dating services.
you seem interesting. Hi *wave*
Look up this video, Text Game --- From Number To Date Step By Step
 

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As a seasoned Tinder athlete I can give you few tips.

It doesn't really matter what you say. If the girls wanted to talk to you she will reply to hi or a 7 page memo.

Make sure your pictures are on point. Clear, and very well dressed. Make sure you're having fun somewhere exciting.

Women for some odd reason don't like to give phone out too quick but if you wait to long they might lose interest so somehow you have to gauge the conversation and ask when the time is right. Or sometimes they will just give it to you.

Try not to text immediately or every day. Trust me.
Everyone says try getting the number quicker before they move on. Lately after a couple replies I ask for it and generally they give it to me. I just tell them I'm not on there a lot and I'd like to chat.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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