"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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How to keep girl interested before the first date?

adamw5963

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Ok I have been talking to a girl that I met on POF for the last 2 days. I asked her to hang out this week and she said that would be cool but she can't til next weekend because she has her kids til then. What should I say to this? Should I try to set up a date anyways or what? I really don't want to have to text her for the next week and a half before I actually get to meet her because I'm afraid she will probably lose interest by then. Any help would be great.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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adamw5963 said:
Ok I have been talking to a girl that I met on POF for the last 2 days. I asked her to hang out this week and she said that would be cool but she can't til next weekend because she has her kids til then. What should I say to this? Should I try to set up a date anyways or what? I really don't want to have to text her for the next week and a half before I actually get to meet her because I'm afraid she will probably lose interest by then. Any help would be great.

If she likes your pictures and you don't seem crazy or like a dork, then she'll want to meet you. If not, then she'll keep making excuses.

What I'm saying is, if she's seriously interested, then her attraction is already there. You're not going to build it any higher via electronic devices.

Reach out to her later on about next weekend. And maybe along the way, send a text or two just to keep in contact. Remember: a text or two - not a whole text conversation.
 

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You do have more plates right?

Judge nismo knows that if a woman wants to see you, she'll move a mountain to see you. :eek:

Here, you need to not go AFC, and if you text, text minimally. If you call, do so to set up the date. This should take 5 minutes MAX, and YOU are the one who must end the conversation. :yes:

Never put all your eggs in one basket. You need to spin more plates until then and always.

Case closed.
 

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I don't offer dates for weekends until Wednesday. Wednesday I invite for Friday. Thursday for Saturday.

I would text her saying something like, "OK I'll text you next week." Real brief text. No flirting, etc. Keep it simple.

Next Wed text her and invite her out for Friday.
I do similar, but a day earlier. Tues for Fri and Wed for Sat. That said, I prefer to make actual dates during the week when first starting to date someone. Once we start having sex, then I can commit my prime party nights to going out with a steady plate. Until then it's just low-grade dates that don't chew up my time.
 

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I do have other plates, its just she is the hottest one haha. I live in a small town and there really isn't but a handful of decent girls around here.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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