"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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How to have TOTAL CONTROL of your girlfriend

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My Name is Nobody said:
Yeah right I haven't even seen a pic yet why would I be interested in you?
That's right. You shouldn't be.

But you can't help it. Because I HAVE mastered the DJ tricks. And they work on YOU. ;)
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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iqqi said:
That's right. You shouldn't be.

But you can't help it. Because I HAVE mastered the DJ tricks. And they work on YOU. ;)

Exactly.. that's why I would chop off my balls before even attempting to chase you.
 

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CONTROL is not healthy in regards to another entity. However, CONTROLLING the FRAME is key. Either you or her at any given point in the relationship CONTROLS the frame. The more often you CONTROL the frame, the more power you have in the relationship.

As the CARDINAL RULE, the one who holds the most power is the one who needs the other the least. Your ability to play by your rules of RESPECT keeps you in control of the frame.

But it is ultimately your CHARACTER as a MAN that will maintain control of this FRAME. You cannot repeatedly walk away. Inevitably it is your INTEGRITY and MASCULINITY that will shine that will LET the girl know she has to step up to the plate and bat 100%.

Your head is in the right place. Perception is key.

What exactly is meant by controlling the frame? not sure i understand that term.

By the way I have had experience with girls that I had the power to bash with nasty words when she messed up.

The truth of the matter is girls I've dated who don't put up with that wheather they are right or wrong have self respect or don't want drama in their life. So yes there are girls that you can control with verbal abuse but usualy that means there father did the same thing to there mother or they feel inferior to you meaning they have low self esteem.

Recently I went off on a girl a couple times and she is gone...again. its best just try to talk about if that doesn't work punish her by walking away. Girls I was able to bash with words I guess kind of made me feel good, but that was a time when i didn't think very highly of myself. (see what i'm getting at?)
 

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I really like the apeshyt one... I never thought to do that.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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iqqi said:
Flipping out = loss of control.





















:D

Now watch me go gangi on your @ss. :p

Just hand this lady your balls before you pursue fellas, it will save alot of trouble.
 

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sosilky said:
What exactly is meant by controlling the frame? not sure i understand that term.
It's an NLP term. When two people interact, one person is reacting more to the other. The person who is being reacted to more controls the frame, as in frame of the interaction. They control the context.

You can also look at it in terms of leading and following. If you're leading, you're controlling the frame

anyway, I agree with guru that leading and frame control is important - it's essentially an extension of your natural masculinity. But I think too many guys try to control the frame out of fear of getting hurt and it manifests itself in stupid ways

- nexting the girl prematurely (hey, at least you had control til the very end right? lol)
- using wierd tricks to avoid losing "power", like yelling at the girl because she breathed funny

why do guys react so strongly to the word "control" on this board? what exactly are you afraid of that you won't accept anything less than absolute power?
 

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What does NLP mean? I'm new to all these terms is there a dictionary in the bible?
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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iqqi said:
Well, most AFC's do need to go through the jerk phase. Have fun with that.

You are going to get what you ask for, then find out it's not what you want.

The Bad Boy Myth was written for you. Read it in a couple years, after you get "jerked" around by none other then yourself. :cool:
I hate to bump this up but I just remembered.. Even SunnyD is on here OBSESSING over a guy that cheated on her.
 

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MCristo said:
Sounds more like tips to become a white-trash abusive husband. You can put your foot down when you need to - don't get me wrong - but going over-the-top ape**** helps nobody
This.

I mean go apesh*t on her, what the heck? That's probably one of the worst things you can do it and will probably just show her that you've got anger problems. I just read the NLP thing and it seems like all the advice in that post is being reactive and being reactive is not me and will probably hurt your success with women.
 
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Going Apesh!t seems to fit Skip's personality. He goes Apesh!t on here all the time.
 

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So let me get this straight........I have a feeling that this thread is sosuave in a nutshell

note that I started this thread simply to help all those who come here and complain about women giving them shyt, doing disrespectful things, getting drunk with another guy, ect ect ect.......I post this out of my own experience, so I know what I am talking about.

And the replies? one guy who gets it (Macvoy), a bunch of guys who are making ASSUMPTIONS (aka keyboard jockeys) that this doesnt work, despite never trying it........also lets note that these are the same guys who are very frustrated over women and their behavior, thus they post on here so much about their problems!!

who else replied? oh yea the female troll known as iqqi, who hijacked this thread for no reason but hey shes doing what she does best, TROLLING wtf bytch hop off this thread

so thats sosuave these days huh? women, trolls, frustrated guys who dont even want advice and just wanna wallow in their own frustrations, and maybe 1 or 2 guys that GETS it

I am looking forward to the next thread labled "gf gave her # to another guy, what should i do?" or even more i cant wait for the next "wife went clubbing with a guy from work till 5am and spent 2 hours at his house sobering up" thread

good luck to you all
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Total Control said:
note that I started this thread simply to help all those who come here and complain about women giving them shyt, doing disrespectful things, getting drunk with another guy, ect ect ect.......
....and you got guys disagreeing with you. When you wrote that you need to verbabally abuse a girl at the VERY FIRST SIGN of disrespect, to ME (I'm an individual) that is the first SIGN that a man is weak. Doing that is a sign of emotional weakness. Women are attracted to men who are in CONTROL of their emotions. Their job is to see if you'll crack, see if they can get you to lose CONTROL. When you DON'T lose control, you stay attractive.

Now after making that point it's hard to take whatever you say to heart, since I've been there done that and have grown past it.

It's very AFC to make one post and make fun of all the people who disagreed with you.

Excerise CONTROL, lol.
 

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Some women are attracted to the bad boys like Total Control. These women usually have low self esteem or some other issues.

Women who don't have these issues wouldn't expect a man to lose control of himself. They'd be turned off because they probably hadn't grown up with that behaviour.

Basically what I'm saying is there are different types of women.
 

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There's a difference between being psycho all the time, and being an easy going MAN who changes when disrespected into a quiet, direct, in no uncertain terms "the next time you do that is the last" where there is zero wiggle room.

And you really don't have to say anything. Chicks know. Words are meaningless.
 

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1)how awesome you are = be ****y about yourself
2) always keep the frame of qualifying her
3) make sure it seems shes always calling you – as its naturally how it works
In female mind courtship steps.
4) how can you keep yourself acting alpha
The key is you’ll feel alpha keep a harlem of 2 -3
Makes you feel so alpha , not act desperate, which you
Need to present the frame onto to her
5) work out or do something that you feel good really about that gives you confidence when your with her, for example I have a killer bod like stallone, I m the shyt
6) disrepeect, comes in many flavors , simply jumping through her loops, don’t buy her shyt make her pay, don’t do stuff for her, if she disrepects make sure you at least bring it up , and tell her I don’t comply.
 

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lol, I'm not a KJ. I've been in an LTR since September

and if I had to consciously be running push-pull from now til eternity as a prerequisite for this relationship to work, I wouldn't bother. relationships shouldn't be that hard and the LONGER you go, the more impractical it becomes to run the SAME EXACT GAME YOU RAN TRYING TO PICK THE GIRL UP

I'm sure your attraction game is good but the guys here posting about girlfriend problems come from three schools.
1 - they don't qualify or have ANY standards about the type of girl that's worth keeping in your life. That's an experience problem
2 - they define a girlfriend loosely. some of the dudes think after 2 weeks of dating, the girl is now their girlfriend. no wonder they have problems
3 - they're a couple years down the road and are running into LTR problems that come with longetivity. this is what I'm curious about and this is something guys that are in player mode can't answer. I'm not trying to knock anyone - player mode is a great place to be as long as it's congruent with what you want out of life. but assuming the ability to pull consistently and maintain value automatically makes you an expert on LTR's is naive
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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