iqqi
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That's right. You shouldn't be.My Name is Nobody said:
But you can't help it. Because I HAVE mastered the DJ tricks. And they work on YOU.
“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
How to have TOTAL CONTROL of your girlfriend
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But you can't help it. Because I HAVE mastered the DJ tricks. And they work on YOU.
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
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iqqi said:That's right. You shouldn't be.
But you can't help it. Because I HAVE mastered the DJ tricks. And they work on YOU.
Exactly.. that's why I would chop off my balls before even attempting to chase you.
guru1000 said:
What exactly is meant by controlling the frame? not sure i understand that term.
By the way I have had experience with girls that I had the power to bash with nasty words when she messed up.
The truth of the matter is girls I've dated who don't put up with that wheather they are right or wrong have self respect or don't want drama in their life. So yes there are girls that you can control with verbal abuse but usualy that means there father did the same thing to there mother or they feel inferior to you meaning they have low self esteem.
Recently I went off on a girl a couple times and she is gone...again. its best just try to talk about if that doesn't work punish her by walking away. Girls I was able to bash with words I guess kind of made me feel good, but that was a time when i didn't think very highly of myself. (see what i'm getting at?)
iqqi
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My Name is Nobody said:
Flipping out = loss of control.
Now watch me go gangi on your @ss.
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
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iqqi said:Flipping out = loss of control.
Now watch me go gangi on your @ss.
Just hand this lady your balls before you pursue fellas, it will save alot of trouble.
ready123
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It's an NLP term. When two people interact, one person is reacting more to the other. The person who is being reacted to more controls the frame, as in frame of the interaction. They control the context.sosilky said:
You can also look at it in terms of leading and following. If you're leading, you're controlling the frame
anyway, I agree with guru that leading and frame control is important - it's essentially an extension of your natural masculinity. But I think too many guys try to control the frame out of fear of getting hurt and it manifests itself in stupid ways
- nexting the girl prematurely (hey, at least you had control til the very end right? lol)
- using wierd tricks to avoid losing "power", like yelling at the girl because she breathed funny
why do guys react so strongly to the word "control" on this board? what exactly are you afraid of that you won't accept anything less than absolute power?
ready123
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Neuro-Linguistic Programmingsosilky said:
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"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
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I hate to bump this up but I just remembered.. Even SunnyD is on here OBSESSING over a guy that cheated on her.iqqi said:Well, most AFC's do need to go through the jerk phase. Have fun with that.
You are going to get what you ask for, then find out it's not what you want.
The Bad Boy Myth was written for you. Read it in a couple years, after you get "jerked" around by none other then yourself.
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I mean go apesh*t on her, what the heck? That's probably one of the worst things you can do it and will probably just show her that you've got anger problems. I just read the NLP thing and it seems like all the advice in that post is being reactive and being reactive is not me and will probably hurt your success with women.
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Going Apesh!t seems to fit Skip's personality. He goes Apesh!t on here all the time.
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So let me get this straight........I have a feeling that this thread is sosuave in a nutshell
note that I started this thread simply to help all those who come here and complain about women giving them shyt, doing disrespectful things, getting drunk with another guy, ect ect ect.......I post this out of my own experience, so I know what I am talking about.
And the replies? one guy who gets it (Macvoy), a bunch of guys who are making ASSUMPTIONS (aka keyboard jockeys) that this doesnt work, despite never trying it........also lets note that these are the same guys who are very frustrated over women and their behavior, thus they post on here so much about their problems!!
who else replied? oh yea the female troll known as iqqi, who hijacked this thread for no reason but hey shes doing what she does best, TROLLING wtf bytch hop off this thread
so thats sosuave these days huh? women, trolls, frustrated guys who dont even want advice and just wanna wallow in their own frustrations, and maybe 1 or 2 guys that GETS it
I am looking forward to the next thread labled "gf gave her # to another guy, what should i do?" or even more i cant wait for the next "wife went clubbing with a guy from work till 5am and spent 2 hours at his house sobering up" thread
good luck to you all
note that I started this thread simply to help all those who come here and complain about women giving them shyt, doing disrespectful things, getting drunk with another guy, ect ect ect.......I post this out of my own experience, so I know what I am talking about.
And the replies? one guy who gets it (Macvoy), a bunch of guys who are making ASSUMPTIONS (aka keyboard jockeys) that this doesnt work, despite never trying it........also lets note that these are the same guys who are very frustrated over women and their behavior, thus they post on here so much about their problems!!
who else replied? oh yea the female troll known as iqqi, who hijacked this thread for no reason but hey shes doing what she does best, TROLLING wtf bytch hop off this thread
so thats sosuave these days huh? women, trolls, frustrated guys who dont even want advice and just wanna wallow in their own frustrations, and maybe 1 or 2 guys that GETS it
I am looking forward to the next thread labled "gf gave her # to another guy, what should i do?" or even more i cant wait for the next "wife went clubbing with a guy from work till 5am and spent 2 hours at his house sobering up" thread
good luck to you all
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
....and you got guys disagreeing with you. When you wrote that you need to verbabally abuse a girl at the VERY FIRST SIGN of disrespect, to ME (I'm an individual) that is the first SIGN that a man is weak. Doing that is a sign of emotional weakness. Women are attracted to men who are in CONTROL of their emotions. Their job is to see if you'll crack, see if they can get you to lose CONTROL. When you DON'T lose control, you stay attractive.Total Control said:
Now after making that point it's hard to take whatever you say to heart, since I've been there done that and have grown past it.
It's very AFC to make one post and make fun of all the people who disagreed with you.
Excerise CONTROL, lol.
Some women are attracted to the bad boys like Total Control. These women usually have low self esteem or some other issues.
Women who don't have these issues wouldn't expect a man to lose control of himself. They'd be turned off because they probably hadn't grown up with that behaviour.
Basically what I'm saying is there are different types of women.
Women who don't have these issues wouldn't expect a man to lose control of himself. They'd be turned off because they probably hadn't grown up with that behaviour.
Basically what I'm saying is there are different types of women.
There's a difference between being psycho all the time, and being an easy going MAN who changes when disrespected into a quiet, direct, in no uncertain terms "the next time you do that is the last" where there is zero wiggle room.
And you really don't have to say anything. Chicks know. Words are meaningless.
And you really don't have to say anything. Chicks know. Words are meaningless.
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1)how awesome you are = be ****y about yourself
2) always keep the frame of qualifying her
3) make sure it seems shes always calling you – as its naturally how it works
In female mind courtship steps.
4) how can you keep yourself acting alpha
The key is you’ll feel alpha keep a harlem of 2 -3
Makes you feel so alpha , not act desperate, which you
Need to present the frame onto to her
5) work out or do something that you feel good really about that gives you confidence when your with her, for example I have a killer bod like stallone, I m the shyt
6) disrepeect, comes in many flavors , simply jumping through her loops, don’t buy her shyt make her pay, don’t do stuff for her, if she disrepects make sure you at least bring it up , and tell her I don’t comply.
2) always keep the frame of qualifying her
3) make sure it seems shes always calling you – as its naturally how it works
In female mind courtship steps.
4) how can you keep yourself acting alpha
The key is you’ll feel alpha keep a harlem of 2 -3
Makes you feel so alpha , not act desperate, which you
Need to present the frame onto to her
5) work out or do something that you feel good really about that gives you confidence when your with her, for example I have a killer bod like stallone, I m the shyt
6) disrepeect, comes in many flavors , simply jumping through her loops, don’t buy her shyt make her pay, don’t do stuff for her, if she disrepects make sure you at least bring it up , and tell her I don’t comply.
ready123
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lol, I'm not a KJ. I've been in an LTR since September
and if I had to consciously be running push-pull from now til eternity as a prerequisite for this relationship to work, I wouldn't bother. relationships shouldn't be that hard and the LONGER you go, the more impractical it becomes to run the SAME EXACT GAME YOU RAN TRYING TO PICK THE GIRL UP
I'm sure your attraction game is good but the guys here posting about girlfriend problems come from three schools.
1 - they don't qualify or have ANY standards about the type of girl that's worth keeping in your life. That's an experience problem
2 - they define a girlfriend loosely. some of the dudes think after 2 weeks of dating, the girl is now their girlfriend. no wonder they have problems
3 - they're a couple years down the road and are running into LTR problems that come with longetivity. this is what I'm curious about and this is something guys that are in player mode can't answer. I'm not trying to knock anyone - player mode is a great place to be as long as it's congruent with what you want out of life. but assuming the ability to pull consistently and maintain value automatically makes you an expert on LTR's is naive
and if I had to consciously be running push-pull from now til eternity as a prerequisite for this relationship to work, I wouldn't bother. relationships shouldn't be that hard and the LONGER you go, the more impractical it becomes to run the SAME EXACT GAME YOU RAN TRYING TO PICK THE GIRL UP
I'm sure your attraction game is good but the guys here posting about girlfriend problems come from three schools.
1 - they don't qualify or have ANY standards about the type of girl that's worth keeping in your life. That's an experience problem
2 - they define a girlfriend loosely. some of the dudes think after 2 weeks of dating, the girl is now their girlfriend. no wonder they have problems
3 - they're a couple years down the road and are running into LTR problems that come with longetivity. this is what I'm curious about and this is something guys that are in player mode can't answer. I'm not trying to knock anyone - player mode is a great place to be as long as it's congruent with what you want out of life. but assuming the ability to pull consistently and maintain value automatically makes you an expert on LTR's is naive
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.