How to escalate / not get friend-zoned

[Grinderman]

@Sgthaytham apologies your thread got derailed and locked my man!

@Sgthaytham Said "A girl I know rested her legs on my lap and let me stroke them and the underside of of her thighs.

We ended up sleeping together on a sofa but nothing happened.

Is this the friendzoned?"

What tips would you give to the guy to escalate and not put himself in the friend-zone?

 

[Sgthaytham]

@Grinderman Thanks for this!

 

[BackInTheGame78]

@Grinderman Thanks for this!

I think the question that needs to be asked is if you wanted to do something, why didn't you?

 

[TheCharmingGuy]

Make your intentions VERY clear early on if there is any uncertainty. Asking if you can kiss them goodnight is a good way. It lets them know that you only want a romantic relationship. Other romantic advances, such as paying for the meal, always picking them up for dates, things like that. Also, always refer to when you go out as a “date”, not a “get together” or a “meetup”.

 

[Sgthaytham]

I think the question that needs to be asked is if you wanted to do something, why didn't you?

Because I'm ****ing clueless.

 

[Sir FB]

My biggest tip. Get tons of pain and suffering from being repeatedly friend zoned so you’ll be willing to change. I was very afraid to escalate with women. I thought only a creep would just kiss a woman without asking. I thought she had to make the first, second and third move because I was a nice guy. The only way out is through. I’d suggest some of the rudimentary dating books by Robert Glover or Corey Wayne. Those guys broke it down for me as to what women want and what I was doing wrong. There’s also a bunch of good stuff in the dating tips here. I had a 5 plus year dry spell turn into six dates and three lays with different women within 90 days. You’ve got to go through the anxiety and escalate. The good news is once you do it, every successive attempt gets easier.

 

[Sgthaytham]

My biggest tip. Get tons of pain and suffering from being repeatedly friend zoned so you’ll be willing to change. I was very afraid to escalate with women. I thought only a creep would just kiss a woman without asking. I thought she had to make the first, second and third move because I was a nice guy. The only way out is through. I’d suggest some of the rudimentary dating books by Robert Glover or Corey Wayne. Those guys broke it down for me as to what women want and what I was doing wrong. There’s also a bunch of good stuff in the dating tips here. I had a 5 plus year dry spell turn into six dates and three lays with different women within 90 days. You’ve got to go through the anxiety and escalate. The good news is once you do it, every successive attempt gets easier.

(This isn't directed towards you) But Corey Wayne is a ****ing fraud.

 

[Sir FB]

(This isn't directed towards you) But Corey Wayne is a ****ing fraud.

Why do you say that? All these guys are trying to sell books, but it doesn’t make the information wrong.

 

[Sgthaytham]

Why do you say that? All these guys are trying to sell books, but it doesn’t make the information wrong.

I don't want to go into detail about it, but I spent over €2000 for his help and guidance, followed his word to a T, and it's likely one of the greatest regrets I've had in my life so far.

Believe it, don't believe it, I don't care. He's a salesman, I fell for it.

 

[Guy69JackBlue]

I don't want to go into detail about it, but I spent over €2000 for his help and guidance, followed his word to a T, and it's likely one of the greatest regrets I've had in my life so far.

Believe it, don't believe it, I don't care. He's a salesman, I fell for it.

Blame yourself.

I can take one look at that guys face and tell he's a pu$$y.

 

[Sgthaytham]

Blame yourself.

I can take one look at that guys face and tell he's a pu$$y.

Of course I blame myself.