"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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How to challenge her?

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Pakwah

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Don't back down, never let her know she is won, always keep her close, yet just far enough away. Be a jerk. Be mysterious. Don't be at her call 24/7. Have a life, don't spend all your time with her, show her you got balls, start fights, talk to other girls, dont do her any favours she wouldn't do back, keep phone calls to a minimum, don't solve her problems, don't be a shoulder.
Remember a girl who challenges you is someone who is pushing you and is looking for a push back.
They want to see that backbone.
In regards to your humour, do all that and more, but give the odd sly smile or throw in a corny joke or a dumb joke, or rip on a friend you both don't like when it is appropriate. Make laughter the last thing she does when she is around you. She will hate you, yet love you.
 

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challange has nothing to do with being disrespectful.. by challanging, you are playing hard to get... you are the target to be hunted and to get chase down... to do this, follow the lines what Pakwah said..
and you must be confident with your sayings basically doer not a talker..

good luck mate..

keep it pimpin'
 

LA_Chico

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Challenge her wit a drinking contest bro!
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Phone call to a minimum and have a life. That's going to
be hard, we work at the same place.

Don't be a shoulder, don't help her :D I do that already.
 

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But what about those guys who do help a girl, who do provide a shoulder and still get the girl? I've lost track the number of guys i've seen around here who get girls through having helped them through some rough time, kept them smiling and laughing.
 

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nvictor said:
DJs,

I want to know how to challenge her. Without being
disrespectful. With a lot of humour?

I hear canasta is pretty challenging.
 

nvictor

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MacAvoy,

my brother is my manager. Dad is the boss.
A friend told me: "get your brother in your
pocket, don't mind the rest. But beware the
boss (my dad)."

do you have something to share?
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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nvictor said:
That's going to be hard, we work at the same place.
nvictor said:
MacAvoy,

my brother is my manager. Dad is the boss.
A friend told me: "get your brother in your
pocket, don't mind the rest. But beware the
boss (my dad)."
:nono: :flowers: Didn't your dad tell you to stop tryin to pick up your sister already!:crackup:
 

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Pakwah said:
Don't back down, never let her know she is won, always keep her close, yet just far enough away. Be a jerk. Be mysterious. Don't be at her call 24/7. Have a life, don't spend all your time with her, show her you got balls, start fights, talk to other girls, dont do her any favours she wouldn't do back, keep phone calls to a minimum, don't solve her problems, don't be a shoulder.
Remember a girl who challenges you is someone who is pushing you and is looking for a push back.
They want to see that backbone.
In regards to your humour, do all that and more, but give the odd sly smile or throw in a corny joke or a dumb joke, or rip on a friend you both don't like when it is appropriate. Make laughter the last thing she does when she is around you. She will hate you, yet love you.
sooo, if laughter is the last thing she does around u, then doesnt that defeat to purpose of C&F? she'll jus think ur a boring ****y, arrogant prick.
 
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