"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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How to challenge her?

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Pakwah

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Don't back down, never let her know she is won, always keep her close, yet just far enough away. Be a jerk. Be mysterious. Don't be at her call 24/7. Have a life, don't spend all your time with her, show her you got balls, start fights, talk to other girls, dont do her any favours she wouldn't do back, keep phone calls to a minimum, don't solve her problems, don't be a shoulder.
Remember a girl who challenges you is someone who is pushing you and is looking for a push back.
They want to see that backbone.
In regards to your humour, do all that and more, but give the odd sly smile or throw in a corny joke or a dumb joke, or rip on a friend you both don't like when it is appropriate. Make laughter the last thing she does when she is around you. She will hate you, yet love you.
 

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challange has nothing to do with being disrespectful.. by challanging, you are playing hard to get... you are the target to be hunted and to get chase down... to do this, follow the lines what Pakwah said..
and you must be confident with your sayings basically doer not a talker..

good luck mate..

keep it pimpin'
 

LA_Chico

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Challenge her wit a drinking contest bro!
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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nvictor

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Phone call to a minimum and have a life. That's going to
be hard, we work at the same place.

Don't be a shoulder, don't help her :D I do that already.
 

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But what about those guys who do help a girl, who do provide a shoulder and still get the girl? I've lost track the number of guys i've seen around here who get girls through having helped them through some rough time, kept them smiling and laughing.
 

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nvictor said:
DJs,

I want to know how to challenge her. Without being
disrespectful. With a lot of humour?

I hear canasta is pretty challenging.
 

nvictor

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MacAvoy,

my brother is my manager. Dad is the boss.
A friend told me: "get your brother in your
pocket, don't mind the rest. But beware the
boss (my dad)."

do you have something to share?
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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nvictor said:
That's going to be hard, we work at the same place.
nvictor said:
MacAvoy,

my brother is my manager. Dad is the boss.
A friend told me: "get your brother in your
pocket, don't mind the rest. But beware the
boss (my dad)."
:nono: :flowers: Didn't your dad tell you to stop tryin to pick up your sister already!:crackup:
 

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Pakwah said:
Don't back down, never let her know she is won, always keep her close, yet just far enough away. Be a jerk. Be mysterious. Don't be at her call 24/7. Have a life, don't spend all your time with her, show her you got balls, start fights, talk to other girls, dont do her any favours she wouldn't do back, keep phone calls to a minimum, don't solve her problems, don't be a shoulder.
Remember a girl who challenges you is someone who is pushing you and is looking for a push back.
They want to see that backbone.
In regards to your humour, do all that and more, but give the odd sly smile or throw in a corny joke or a dumb joke, or rip on a friend you both don't like when it is appropriate. Make laughter the last thing she does when she is around you. She will hate you, yet love you.
sooo, if laughter is the last thing she does around u, then doesnt that defeat to purpose of C&F? she'll jus think ur a boring ****y, arrogant prick.
 
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