"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
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"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
For example, the other day I was out at a club talking to these girls and they asked me if I was Italian. When I said no, they said "you look Italian". I said, well if I were Italian I'd be talking to you like this (at this point I started grabbing my balls and moving my shoulders up and down like Tony Soprano, while repeatedly saying "eehhhh"). The laughed at this.
Basically, the first thing that comes to your mind is usually the best thing to say. Although, you want to take a microsecond to think if it will be too much and offend them. It's better to go for it anyway at first until your subconscious learns automatically when to blurt something out and when to hold back.
tsmith2334
Master Don Juan
that's a horrible example. just about every single joke about the "guido" stereotype has been done to death. step your game up.Dragon said:
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
tsmith2334
Master Don Juan
Yea, 1.2 posts per day... I just can't leave this damn keyboard alone!Dragon said:
I'm actually getting to ready to go to a sports restaurant and one of the plates I'm spinning will be working the bar. Let's see how I do.
Oh, and I'll make sure to leave the guido jokes alone. They stopped being funny in 2006.
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
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Just be yourself. I find C&F comes naturally to me, especially if I'm in a good mood. Watching a lot of comedy helps with that, plus if it doesn't come naturally, you can observe how the comedians deliver their lines. A lot of it is playful sarcasm, like in the link above. Whatever type of person you are, it doesn't hurt to go into a club happy and relaxed, because that will always help C&F.
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Let us know how it works out.
tsmith2334
Master Don Juan
fair enough. no hard feelings my friend.Dragon said:
1-3 are good, 5 is great.MagicMark said:
BE CAREFUL with six.
7 is good.
8 could get a mixed reaction, it's hit or miss. (no pun intended)
4, 9-10 be careful not to overuse.
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
tsmith2334
Master Don Juan
sarcastic comedic exaggeration
in other words saying things based on truth but very outrageous
i.e. Point to young girl at the bar -> "how did she get in here, she looks six"
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