weakepedea
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How do you prevent this w/o being seen as a jerk?
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You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
I usually, and rudely, cut them off, and start insulting the fu*ck out of the male in question, bringing up such issues as penis size, and manhood, and his ability to streetfight, and then slandering her for being stupid enough to fall for his lines, when he was not as good in the sack as myself. Then I offer myself as a sexual release, for healing purposes. If she refuses, I hang up, or leave her at the restaurant/bar, with the tab.Existential said:You set the parameters of the relationship from the beginning. It's not that you don't care about her feelings, it's that your worldview is that you are not a counselor. Do you care about her? Yes. Are you being paid an hourly wage to counsel? No. MAKE HER 100% ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE SITUATION SHE IS CURRENTLY SAD ABOUT. Don't do is crudely, and don't do it as, "well, you'd be better off with me." Your frame should be, "Well, what did you expect?" Similar to as if you were explaing, "two plus two."
Now, obviously, if you girlfriend youself at the beginning and then LATER try to withdrawal she's going to see it as jerk like behavior. Nonetheless, this slow leveraging of value is one of the best ways to get OUT of the friend zone in the first place.
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
Haha, I wouldn't handle it that way and I don't think it's exactly optimal in a theoretical sense. But, if it gets you results, more power to you. Lol.JackPrescott said:I usually, and rudely, cut them off, and start insulting the fu*ck out of the male in question, bringing up such issues as penis size, and manhood, and his ability to streetfight, and then slandering her for being stupid enough to fall for his lines, when he was not as good in the sack as myself. Then I offer myself as a sexual release, for healing purposes. If she refuses, I hang up, or leave her at the restaurant/bar, with the tab.
Yeah, I wouldn't do that either.JackPrescott said:I usually, and rudely, cut them off, and start insulting the fu*ck out of the male in question, bringing up such issues as penis size, and manhood, and his ability to streetfight, and then slandering her for being stupid enough to fall for his lines, when he was not as good in the sack as myself. Then I offer myself as a sexual release, for healing purposes. If she refuses, I hang up, or leave her at the restaurant/bar, with the tab.
What would you do, stay up till 4am listening to her sob over what an a$$hole he is, because he had anal sex with her younger sister?PrinceBeavis said:Yeah, I wouldn't do that either.
lol that's aggressive but not totally bad advice. People forget how messed up women can be too. Sometimes you have bring yourself above and that means cutting ties with messed up girls.JackPrescott said:I usually, and rudely, cut them off, and start insulting the fu*ck out of the male in question, bringing up such issues as penis size, and manhood, and his ability to streetfight, and then slandering her for being stupid enough to fall for his lines, when he was not as good in the sack as myself. Then I offer myself as a sexual release, for healing purposes. If she refuses, I hang up, or leave her at the restaurant/bar, with the tab.
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
If she doesnt want to go to bed with me, I could care less if she is insecure.Birdem said:Set the rules early at the very beginning. If you start to hear her talking about her bull**** problems on the first date I would just forget about a second date because she got problems that are beyond you. Another option I would use would like cut her off and say you have to go, she will get the point that you aren't there to be her girlfriend. Jack that would be nice advice if you want someone to be insecure.