"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
How to approach women when they're with other men?
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"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
1. Approach the girl and ignore the guy, assume he's not there (could be dangerous if its his gf and he's bigger than you)
2. Approach the guy and ignore the girl, assume she's not there and get HIM to introduce you to the girl. This never fails, once you Out-Alpha the guy he'll try to make up for it by showing off the girl and inadvertantly giving you the 'in' you were waiting for... my favorite
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^ ^ ^ I've met guys like you before... I'd have you introducing me to your girl within 5 minutes haha, or of course I'd have to entertain the option that I'd be laying on my back, but with my experience and confidence I'm going with u introducing me to your girl
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"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
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BTW THIS IS A JOKE DONT DO IT UNLESS YOU ARE PRETTY SURE YOU CAN KNOCK THE GUY OUT!
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1.Approach the girl and ignore the guy, assume he's not there (could be dangerous if its his gf and he's bigger than you)
2. Approach the guy and ignore the girl, assume she's not there and get HIM to introduce you to the girl. This never fails, once you Out-Alpha the guy he'll try to make up for it by showing off the girl and inadvertantly giving you the 'in' you were waiting for...
To the original poster, have you read my thread I just made? You guys are still "working for women." What's going to come of this situation? If he is a alpha male in any fashion, he'll know what the fvck you are doing, you think he's just going to take that disrespect? When you are laid out with fvcking acid thrown on your azz you'll get the point.
So what happens, you guys start fighting over a girl, she stands back and watches, knowing her "power" is still good. Read my thread, let a woman come up to you and your girl and try to take you and let them two fight.
Why would you want to put yourself in this situation?
If you tried to do that to me...first off, I would have my girl programmed to not even speak to you first off....secondly, I would kindly let you "approach me" then get you to come with us to some isolated spot. Then when we get there, have my boys beat the living fvck outta you. You tell me brotha, is it worth it?
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And oh yah, another thing. If the girl is with a don juan, you are one of those other 9 guys she rejects, so she just might help him break your arm.
You guys need a life, lol. All these single, bored, hot women out here and you wanna fvck wit Tupac's girl. haahahah
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
That sounds crazy alpha, I really am trying to get my confidence up so I can be on this level. Hell yeah. Except the "If you want a Manfriend..." part. I know it's a joke. But yeah, as a DJ, I'll respect another kat's relationship or whatever so I prolly nod or somethin and be like "my fault partna" and make a good exit (don't want it to look awkward lol).Dayum itz jee said:
But if she says no and I be like "Well when you finish talkin to this kid, I need u to holla at me." And decide right there whether it's a situation where I need to give her my number or if there's time for her to get back @ me later that night.
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WHY ARE YOU SUCH A LOSER THAT YOU ALWAYS HAVE TO THINK THE WORST ABOUT EVERYONE, DID IT EVER ENTER YOUR THICK HEAD THAT THE GUYS WHO HAVE WRITTEN THESE POSTS MAY BE MUCH BETTER FIGHTERS THAN THE GUYS THAT THEY ARE UP AGAINST, GET A BRAIN.DonJuanForever said:
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Listening to these lames are going to get you ur as z beat.Reloaded said:
You have another post about you wanting to pretend to be a "bad boy," and I consider anyone who has to ask such a question should stick to non-bad boy ways, because you'll end up getting puched in your throat if you follow what these KBJ's tell you.
Leave other guys girls alone have a lil respect before someone teaches you about it.
You guys get more pathetic every fking day (all of you.)
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
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He's not the REAL problems. The advice that these idiots pass as knowledge is the problem.rocky_mtn said:
On the other hand, sometimes I'll see couples walking around and the girl looks bored, her body language is showing disinterest in the guy... Usually these same girls will hold eye contact with me if I catch their eye. If they hold eye contact with you for a good time, then the other guy is probably an AFC / you sparked her interest. This all usually happens when the other guy is looking away to a different direction.
At this point you'll both "know" that you want her and she wants you
, so she's sorta even hoping that you'll approach her somehow someway.Now the challenge is that even if she is interested in you, she would not usually be too keen on giving you her # right in front of the other guy, even if she is NOT interested in him (it's all about avoiding looking like a sl*t or easy, women will do this at all costs).
Your best bet? Catch her when the guy steps away or she walks off to somewhere else by herself. What if you got no choice and must talk to her with the guy there? Then AVOID asking them if they are in a relationship; don't say stuff like (Is this your brother/friend/boyfriend?). Just keep the focus of the attention off their connection/relation. Chat up the girl with a little fluff talk. Once in a while the guy might start talking, to him just say stuff like "hey are those Levis Jeans? Cool. I got the same ones!" Then turn back to the chick and continue talking. Don't make it look too seductive/romantic/sexual, but with the girl make it look like a "buddies connection." Here you're talking about similar interests, places to go to, things to do. Then just finish off with "hey look i gotta get going, gimme your # and we'll stay in touch" She'll prefer you not to lean too far into romantic communication because the other guy is there (trying not to be a sl*t thing, once again).
THen later on when you contact her when the other guy isn't there, you can kick your seduction up a notch :rockon:
If you do this routine right, she will "get" what's going on and so will you. Maybe even the other guy, but it will all be so subtle and smooth that the other guy cannot implicate anyone for anything without looking like an *******. And if he does, this makes him even more AFC, only making your odds better :yes:
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Come on get real... Did you come up with this from your mom's basement?
So, a guy is suppose to sit back and listen to you fluff talk his girl, ask him about his jean, and then try to number close his chick??? Get Real!
I don't care how smooth your mother and her friends say you are- there's no way her BF will stand for this.
Try this around a real man and you are going to get shutdown in a heart beat: "Get the **** out of here."
Where do you fools come from??? WTF
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Wrong, if shes a 5-9 with a healthy social life shes gonna have some kind of c@ck around anyway (this is basic sh!t btw).oakraiderz2 said:
Just because another c@ck happens to be physically present in this instance doesnt make him a "chump" for not giving a fvck.
Try labelling guys "chumps" who actually deserve it.
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Say there's a girl working at a fast food place behind the register. You don't know her name but have flirted/joked before, and you frequent the place because the food is good.
Last time you were eyeing one of the girls there, the manager starts asking you about how you will spend your summer. Kind of like blocking you, but you're not positive about it.
So...you want to get this chick's name and number, but there's other guys that work there, and the manager guy.
I'm not afraid of the manager or anyone. I don't fear getting rejected. My problem is that I know that girls rarely toss up the number when they're around other guys or feel comfortable doing so...it's mostly something they would do when in a less crowded or alone situation. I'm asking, out of respect for her, and not being a selfish prick...So, how do you go about #closing...she's attracted, and so am I. Do you just try to catch her on break or something?
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.