How the decline in casual dinning parallels a man’s struggles in modern dating

[Hamurabimbi]

95% of men - where do you get this stat?

There's already data from swiping apps. Women don't rate men on a bell curve like men do; they only find a small fraction of them attractive. Women literally say things like "Ryan Gosling is average", because when women talk about men, they are always exclusively referrring to men they find attractive, which is a very limited pool,. I made that number up but it's definitely higher than 75%. A recent survey found that about 1/3 of men between 18-34 have had no sexual encounters within the last year, and likely ever. Michael Sartain told a story where he was out with his GF and asked her if she would date any of the men around her. She said no, and he asked her about the postal worker and she hadn't even noticed him, in her mind he was a non-entity. Women view most men this way, as non-entities. A 5'4 Indian cashier isn't going to get more women if he starts talking to them regularly. Some men are just out of the game. No amount of self-improvement will make a difference. Self-improvement is only relevant to men who already have potential.


So you believe chances for success are equal whether you do something or do nothing?

Of course not. But to pretend that the masses of men have a chance is silly. Regardless, the fact that men have to work so hard to raise their value just to get a basic bvtch tatted ***** with 40 bodies is a joke. I'm not speaking from my own experience, but the overall experience of men. It's called hoeflation. Personally I am starting to view all women as recreational use only, I don't even go on dates anymore I just invite them to my home and if they say no, I move on to the next.

Do you personally let women define your value for you as suggested above?

Wdym? Who else but women would ultimately determine your value in the sexual marketplace? You can insist you're a high value man all day but if you can't get laid or get a high quality GF then the market proves otherwise. It's akin to a fat bvtch insisting she's a 10 just because she says so. I'm not sure what you're implying?

 

[corrector]

There are always choices and solutions for non-attractive men while they may not be preferred life is not fair. I wish I was born into the Gates family so I don't have to work but guess what that didn't happen so I gotta grind! no one cares let me say this again no one cares about men's plight (not even most men do, hence most of these Red Pill youtubers/authors are grifters who don't even practice what they preach!)unless they are willing to fight for it politically and get things changed i.e. divorce laws, mandatory DNA testing, men's rights, etc (whatever law or agenda you're trying to push). MGTOW tried by "walking away" but not being politically active and guess what women didn't care cause most MGTOW guys aren't guys that women are checking for anyway. Then youtube/Reddit and other social media platforms got MGTOW da heck outta their algorithm and a lot of MGTOW"s rebranded or disappeared cause it was never about the message for them but $$$$

Here are some solutions for non-attractive men or men who are not desirable

• Become a Passport Bro-Biggest movement right now no self-improvement needed just a passport and some money to travel overseas
• Get a Sugar Baby (don't recommend)
• Or be forever alone, no worries AI girlfriends are here, and you can have a sex doll to boot

If you think things are bad now, in 6 years things are about to get worse, a lotta guys are to focus on poosy yet still live at home with their parents in their late 20s or 30s, are overweight, lazy, soft, entitled, dealing with mental issues etc. Heck one of the biggest incles in youtube history Kent got off youtube got in shape now has a girlfriend if he can do it, it's possible for most guys!

Now you.are not shaming unattractive guys for using those options, but you shamed them for going on OF as though AI is better than a real human being on the other end. You are not calling unattaractive guys clowns now for using their options or copes?

 

[Solomon]

Now you.are not shaming unattractive guys for using those options, but you shamed them for going on OF as though AI is better than a real human being on the other end. You are not calling unattaractive guys clowns now for using their options or copes?

Life is not fair it's not my fault, Ugly guys have options to do as they wish, why would they care what I think about them? I don't worry about ugly guys because I don't try to date them, if they drop out the dating race I wouldn't notice the difference

once again life is harsh it's not fair once you realize that, it will help you on your journey

Toodles!

 

[corrector]

Life is not fair it's not my fault, Ugly guys have options to do as they wish, why would they care what I think about them? I don't worry about ugly guys because I don't try to date them, if they drop out the dating race I wouldn't notice the difference

once again life is harsh it's not fair once you realize that, it will help you on your journey

Toodles!

You seem like making fun of them. Do you like kicking people who are already down?

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

I dont do that in any if my threads. I made a reference and whenever I have brought it up, its a pure cope rather than a red pill thing or claiming it has anything to do with seduction. For example, ED, is a health issue, not a seduction issue. Any threads on the Anything Else section are NOT intended to be seduction, it is talking about literally anything else. This is when it becomes censorship and this board is taking a moralistic stand that it is wrong in principle and should not even be brought up in that section. If you took that position then it would at least make sense to me.

There was a general agreement to refrain from references which I DMed,.so I intend to do that anyway. You can reference the agreement made on the DM. It is best to appeal to a private commitment either on a thread or DM then rathet.than say I am making it out to be something which I am not. At least its more honest.

TLDR;

Prostitution and w0remongering on a site dedicated to seduction Is a non-starter.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

I've noticed most of the black pill posters around here are casual technocrats and statisticians who then scale their "stats" (all guesses) down to themselves.

Absolutely agree. It’s part of the attitude often displayed here: “If it doesn’t happen to me it simply cannot be because I’m so facking desirable and do not get what the poster is claiming he does!”

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

Nice. I made a comment here last year about putting yourself together like the guys (who dress (hairstyle included) and wear (jewelry included) what's popular right now) your target audience likes to make things easier for yourself.

You forgot “and douse themselves in cologne.”

 

[BackInTheGame78]

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Well let's see...I'm 5'8", probably a 6 in looks and have banged over 60 women from OLD. Granted at times I have been in elite shape which helped, but there was not much difference honestly even when I was heavier and not in the best shape. Maybe had to go on more dates but still never had issues getting laid or getting dates.

Don't believe everything you are told in terms of "data".

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

You seem like making fun of them. Do you like kicking people who are already down?

I’ll answer:

If the men are 5-6 and complaining about not getting with 8’s Yea I do, I love making fun of people with ridiculous expectations. If you’re not getting what you want improve to the best version of you, lift weights to start and get better clothing and good haircuts, all achievable by ordinary folks.

If that doesn’t improve your performance just accept you don’t rate a hotter woman under any circumstance because you’re an ugly mfer and set your sights lower.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

Well let's see...I'm 5'8", probably a 6 in looks and have banged over 60 women from OLD. Granted at times I have been in elite shape which helped, but there was not much difference honestly even when I was heavier and not in the best shape. Maybe had to go on more dates but still never had issues getting laid or getting dates.

Don't believe everything you are told in terms of "data".

The world is full of anomalies. You & I are not alone.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

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Well let's see...I'm 5'8", probably a 6 in looks and have banged over 60 women from OLD. Granted at times I have been in elite shape which helped, but there was not much difference honestly even when I was heavier and not in the best shape. Maybe had to go on more dates but still never had issues getting laid or getting dates.

Don't believe everything you are told in terms of "data".

A little off topic but it just struck me. The one week on Tinder I got 0 matches was when my Spotify song was Clapton’s ‘It’s in the way that you use it.’.

 

[corrector]

TLDR;

Prostitution and w0remongering on a site dedicated to seduction Is a non-starter.

Right, then so should be sex robots, AI, or NON-HUMAN based copes that don't require seduction either. Discussion about GEO-maxxing or meeting women in other countries like the Phillipeans, can be argued to not require seduction either, especially if the guy is white and throwing money at her. Also Sugar Baby arrangements can't be talked about either. Porn and no fap should not be discussed either as it's also not related to seduction, The list goes on and on....

At least if you are going play that card then apply it across the board.

Oh, and BTW, for the record, even prostitutes require game, just ask @Gamisch. Therefore based on that logic, saying that a prostitute requires no game or seduction skills, is for the record, debatable. Even @Hamurabimbi incel friend got REJECTED by a stripper. Again, how can you get rejected if no seduction is involved? Unless it's sex-robots or something that's not human, then seduction is always going to be involved.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

Right, then so should be sex robots, AI, or NON-HUMAN based copes that don't require seduction either. Discussion about GEO-maxxing or meeting women in other countries like the Phillipeans, can be argued to not require seduction either, especially if the guy is white and throwing money at her. Also Sugar Baby arrangements can't be talked about either. Porn and no fap should not be discussed either as it's also not related to seduction, The list goes on and on....

At least if you are going play that card then apply it across the board.

Oh, and BTW, for the record, even prostitutes require game, just ask @Gamisch. Therefore based on that logic, saying that a prostitute requires no game or seduction skills, is for the record, debatable. Even @Hamurabimbi incel friend got REJECTED by a stripper. Again, how can you get rejected if no seduction is involved? Unless it's sex-robots or something that's not human, then seduction is always going to be involved.

Dude you have way too much time on your hands, if you spent the time you use to post here (and I’m sure other places) to do pushups and get an online degree you’d not be our resident self-proclaimed incel, I’d say volcel at this point. How many pushups today?

 

[Hamurabimbi]

At least if you are going play that Even @Hamurabimbi incel friend got REJECTED by a stripper. Again, how can you get rejected if no seduction is involved? Unless it's sex-robots or something that's not human, then seduction is always going to be involved.

Well. Actually both he & I were just sitting there when she propositioned me & rejected him. We had no opportunity to seduce her.

 

[sangheilios]

Well let's see...I'm 5'8", probably a 6 in looks and have banged over 60 women from OLD. Granted at times I have been in elite shape which helped, but there was not much difference honestly even when I was heavier and not in the best shape. Maybe had to go on more dates but still never had issues getting laid or getting dates.

Don't believe everything you are told in terms of "data".

If you are willing to have relatively low standards AND live in an area with a decent OLD pool this is not all that unrealistic.

I knew a guy that was living in a college town when he was in his early to mid 20s who got a lot of action from OLD, particularly tinder. He was a real life 7 for his age, was 6'+, decently handsome and looked like an average guy you'd see that played pickup basketball games at the gym. I had this preconceived notion that he was pulling a bunch of cute or even hot women from OLD, but I was totally incorrect. Most of the women he pulled from there were honestly average looking, in fact I'd even add that a good portion of them were below average and something I'd never be interested in. The key to this success though is that he was willing to lower his standards by quite a bit when it came to shorter term type flings. The real relationships that he did end up having though were women that were fairly similar to him in regards to attractiveness.

You probably banged a lot of fatties or left over women that you met with OLD sources. There's nothing wrong with this, but don't pretend you were landing quality women left and right.

 

[MatureDJ]

Red Lobster analogies. Most guys will do anything but approach.

It's OVER for CrustaceanCels, especially the ones at the bottom of the lobster dominance hierarchy:

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

Life is not fair it's not my fault, Ugly guys have options to do as they wish, why would they care what I think about them? I don't worry about ugly guys because I don't try to date them, if they drop out the dating race I wouldn't notice the difference

Ugly guys should just have better personalities. Or lead with their wallet.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

You forgot “and douse themselves in cologne.”

The AXE effect can be literally breathtaking.

 

[Millard Fillmore]

It's OVER for CrustaceanCels, especially the ones at the bottom of the lobster dominance hierarchy:

Haha and aren't lobsters already bottom feeders? So bottom of the bottom....

 

[MatureDJ]

Ugly guys should just have better personalities. Or lead with their wallet.

Like this guy?

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