"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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how should i respond to this?

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Ok met some girl off plentyoffish the other day! things went fine and we are meeting up again tmrw!

she msgs me today saying "i assume you still talk to other people on pof still don't you?"

I reply back with "yes sure i talk to everyone on it"

she then msgs back with "No, its totally fine....so do i. It's just that there is someone who talks a lot and i can relate to like i do with you and i just wanted to make sure you were in the same situation and fine with it. Don't like lieing to people or leading them on."

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“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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She just sent another text saying "No better than i get onw ith you.... never met them or anything. I know you better. So, do i take it that it would bother you?"
 
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I wouldn't even reply to it. Just meet up with her and act as if the conversation never even happened.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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RSanders219 said:
I wouldn't even reply to it. Just meet up with her and act as if the conversation never even happened.
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im pretty sure she will ask in person!
 
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really not a difficult one, she's just laying it out honestly. No need for games or fancy words, thank her for that honestly and proceed to show her what a great person you are.

that's what I would do, imo women at times feel undervalued/not taken seriously. it's a breath of fresh air for them to have someone affirm what they've said esp if they're not bsing with mind games.
 
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reply "it's all good, let's just keep having fun and take it step by step"

aloof and cryptic blow off.
 
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I didn't reply! and she called me to ask if im pissed at her? I basically said nah thanks for being honest..talk to whoever you want im not the jealous type! she then said are we ok for tmrw and i said "yeah it should be lots of fun."

think i said the right stuff? lol Im more bothered not regarding this chick but for future encounters with the same situation. If she wants to go with an afc then thats her choice but also her loss!
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Well ok I went on the date with her tonight! We went for a meal...everything went fine, she paid etc! then we got to a club danced abit, went for a kiss after lots of iois and she backed off and gave me a peck! we then left club and i offered to go out sat...she then said she can't shes doing something else on saturday....then 5 mins later she started crying and said she is seeing another guy on sat!

Basically she wants to casually date a few guys and see what happens....she also said that shes never had a proper relationship! (shes 23) any of you guys met a girl like this before? isn't it a bit weird the way shes acting?
 
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Honest and pays for dates! Sounds like a keeper with a side of nutty. Danny, this may be the best catch I've heard in a while or the best horror story you eventually will have to share around a campfire. Honestly, to cry on the first date..
 
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DannyM said:
Well ok I went on the date with her tonight! We went for a meal...everything went fine, she paid etc! then we got to a club danced abit, went for a kiss after lots of iois and she backed off and gave me a peck! we then left club and i offered to go out sat...she then said she can't shes doing something else on saturday....then 5 mins later she started crying and said she is seeing another guy on sat!

Basically she wants to casually date a few guys and see what happens....she also said that shes never had a proper relationship! (shes 23) any of you guys met a girl like this before? isn't it a bit weird the way shes acting?
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You're gonna open pandora's box soon, my friend. My guess is that you won't like what's gonna come out.
 
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DannyM said:
Well ok I went on the date with her tonight! We went for a meal...everything went fine, she paid etc! then we got to a club danced abit, went for a kiss after lots of iois and she backed off and gave me a peck! we then left club and i offered to go out sat...she then said she can't shes doing something else on saturday....then 5 mins later she started crying and said she is seeing another guy on sat!

Basically she wants to casually date a few guys and see what happens....she also said that shes never had a proper relationship! (shes 23) any of you guys met a girl like this before? isn't it a bit weird the way shes acting?
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Yeah... I have no idea what's she's doing, but there's definitely crazy in her. It's for you to find out if it's fun crazy or just crazy crazy. Good luck with that.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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EvilAgenda said:
Let her.


P.S. I'm curious. Why did you let her pay for you? Is that what you meant by saying "she paid"?
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Yeah, she pretty much just walked up and paid the bill when i went to toilet, i offered to pay my half but she said it was ok. This girl is puzzling me more than any before lol.
 
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