"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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How should I chat/converse in a group with females?

Stephen89

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So something amazing and totally unexpected happened.

I go to events, I play sports matches between communities for years and they've seen me for a long time, I may have said 'hi' to them only once lol. I only have 2 of them on Facebook. I don't really chat to them.

They've created a chat group on Facebook similar to a whats-app group which they invited me to join the group) amongst their female cousins, female friends in the community, I'm assuming they'll add more females since they know more females in the community and so far I'm the only male member out of all of them.

I'll see them in the events.

It's really my ticket in.

So this is the Facebook messages so far from one of the females:

-what's app group was a bit too much, let's have a laugh and do things! If anyone has idea's let's do stuff!

On another message:

-Beverage anonymous meetings

So what are your tips and tactics? I sometimes don't know what to say.

The messages could be lighthearted and jokey.
 
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"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Talk to them like the normal people they are. If there is a girl in the group you find attractive, work your game on her IN-PERSON only. Consider any awkwardness it might create if she rejects you, considering you may see her all the time at the sporting events. In group texts, communicate much less than the women do - you are a busy guy and not a single loser who has time to sit around texting constantly - your texts should be a little funny, where possible, and to the point regarding coordination of activities. Save the long joking conversations for the actual F2F events.
 

speed dawg

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I'd stay off the chat as much as possible. Use it for information only. If someone addresses you specifically, wait a few hours and give a short response.

You really don't want to get in the habit of small talk with a group of females, you risk becoming one of them (in their eyes).
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

Read more...

Stephen89

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I'd stay off the chat as much as possible. Use it for information only. If someone addresses you specifically, wait a few hours and give a short response.

You really don't want to get in the habit of small talk with a group of females, you risk becoming one of them (in their eyes).
Thanks for the suggestion speed dawg.
 

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I'd stay off the chat as much as possible. Use it for information only. If someone addresses you specifically, wait a few hours and give a short response.

You really don't want to get in the habit of small talk with a group of females, you risk becoming one of them (in their eyes).
Agree.
 
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