DJKid
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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
How much do you value looks in a woman?
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
DonGorgon
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she cant be below a 5 in looks but does not need to be a 10 at all im more about her style her vibe and her physical attitude..
BongDuy
Master Don Juan
60% looks, 40% personality, but one thing she must have is a sense of humor!!!!
it also helps if she likes sex, but not after one date, more like a few months. thats a respectable girlfriend, imo
it also helps if she likes sex, but not after one date, more like a few months. thats a respectable girlfriend, imo
Exhumed
Senior Don Juan
I disagree, why do we respect that? "Oh, she's sacrificing her own personal enjoyment as well as my own in order to be accepted by society, what a respectable young lady."
BongDuy
Master Don Juan
maybe you're right. i just think that girls who great freaky on the first date aren't really girlfriend material? im new to the whole djing thing so i could be wrong.Exhumed said:
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
Exhumed
Senior Don Juan
No, everyone has their preferences, though I'm curious to see what all of your opinions are on the subject...I would guess that for the most part the people here have no problem with a "liberated" woman as we strive to understand the source of women's reluctance to have sex or talk about sex and dismantle that mindset...
The girls I get along with best like sex and are open to discussing it, and consider girls who shy away from it to be hypocrites...and not all of these girls are super-sluts who f*ck on the first date; I wouldn't like to have sex on the first date...but not because society tells me not to.
So if I may temporarily deviate from the subject, how does your ideal woman view sex?
The girls I get along with best like sex and are open to discussing it, and consider girls who shy away from it to be hypocrites...and not all of these girls are super-sluts who f*ck on the first date; I wouldn't like to have sex on the first date...but not because society tells me not to.
So if I may temporarily deviate from the subject, how does your ideal woman view sex?
Solomon
Master Don Juan
Colossus said:
BINGO
This is a good thread, i gotta come read this in depth when I got more time
*book marks*
DJKid
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I 2nd that...DonGorgon said: