"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

Read more...

How much do looks matter

Thebestthereeveris

Master Don Juan
Joined
Aug 2, 2020
Messages
534
Reaction score
353
Age
30
So many God damn opinions on this but I want to hear your guys view and also say why you chose the answer. Me personally I think looks matter and it's pretty crazy pickup and game dudes discount it
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

Read more...

crowolf

Senior Don Juan
Joined
Feb 21, 2019
Messages
262
Reaction score
252
Looks matter. But mostly for online dating. In real life you can find other ways to compensate - game, social value, your presence, frame, etc..

I think it comes down to this: as a man, you have to bring value to the table. This is either: good looks, money, status, game, social value, confidence & charisma..
 

Sega Genesis

Master Don Juan
Joined
Sep 9, 2024
Messages
1,016
Reaction score
783
In real life you can find other ways to compensate - game, social value, your presence, frame, etc..
Agree and adding one more - his energy! Or perhaps that falls under his "presence"?

Not sure why energy gets discounted so often.. a man's great energy can trump all those things mentioned imo.

On the other hand, he could be a total Chad in every sense of the word but if his energy is piss poor he's gonna flop!

And I agree with @Dr.Suave , initiate when interested and I don't mean sexually Mode One. Ugh.

That will not fly with a high quality girl... be assertive, confident and respectful.

With a low quality, hoeish type girl Mode One might work. Depends on what you want I spose.
 
Last edited:

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

Read more...

BPH

Master Don Juan
Joined
Nov 8, 2010
Messages
3,906
Reaction score
2,996
Location
Wilmington, DE
I don't believe @We_ArE_VeNOM is seeking a "high quality girl" necessarily...he's just seeking a woman he finds hot and is down to f***.

In which case Mode One could work.

My read on it anyway
I don't even think "hot" is a requirement. Apparently he slammed a 70-year old not too long ago.
 

Sega Genesis

Master Don Juan
Joined
Sep 9, 2024
Messages
1,016
Reaction score
783
I don't even think "hot" is a requirement. Apparently he slammed a 70-year old not too long ago.
Lol well HE may have found her hot.. who the hell knows!

He has uploaded pics of some of the women he's approached who he found hot... I (and others) were a bit shocked but hey everyone has different tastes right?
 

Manure Spherian

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jun 16, 2023
Messages
1,900
Reaction score
1,645
Age
48
So many God damn opinions on this but I want to hear your guys view and also say why you chose the answer. Me personally I think looks matter and it's pretty crazy pickup and game dudes discount it
Plenty of ordinary-looking men have women. But looks help enormously.

Status and dangerousness trump all.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

Read more...

Clockwerk50

Master Don Juan
Joined
Aug 5, 2023
Messages
2,302
Reaction score
2,322
Age
41
Looks, personality, status, money. Some variables carry more weight than others, and it varies from woman to woman since they are not all the same.
 

Prepostereax

Senior Don Juan
Joined
Jan 11, 2025
Messages
220
Reaction score
266
Nah. If Looks are all she's got, she's probably a thot.

Looks are only crucial for OLD, when that is all you can go by, initially.

With cold approach, looks help a bit, but body language and vibe are what's essential
(+ fitness/physique holds more weight here, regardless of looks.
Sexiness = How she carries herself, confidence, playfulness)
.

When it comes to social circles, other more important qualities shine.
Looks become totally irrelevant.
Ice Queens with zero personality are 0/10 in my book.

What matters is:
Self respect. This includes physical fitness, I'm not turned on by women who let themselves go.
Ability to communicate her needs and desires.
Calling me out on things that she has issue with, before it becomes a serious problem.
Character. Putting in effort, matching mine.
Willingness to step out of her comfort zone, even if she doesn't want to.
Not lying, cheating, etc.
Being an example for others.
Supporting me in what I find important, even if it's stuff she's not comfortable with.

- - - - -

Okay, an example from one of our social circles, there's this woman with a facial deformity, a birthmark.
Her portraits would be sub-five.
But she keeps in shape, runs regularly, eats sensibly, drinks only socially, a fit and trim body.
Works two jobs to make ends meet.
And she's stuck by her man, even though their marriage hit a rocky patch with him going through depression and having to work/travel interstate. She relocated temporarily to support him. I think they're over the worst now.
I've known other couples whose relationships don't survive living apart.


So she has high self respect and high character.
She probably could have plastic surgery or something to improve her facial appearance, but she doesn't need to.
I'd consider her a high value woman.
 

HaleyBaron

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jan 25, 2021
Messages
2,757
Reaction score
2,339
Culture matters. And yes, skin color gets involved [I know this forum tries to evade the reality, but I think it's important, too].
 

Pandora

Master Don Juan
Joined
Nov 11, 2008
Messages
3,729
Reaction score
3,565
Age
41
Plenty of ordinary-looking men have women. But looks help enormously.

Status and dangerousness trump all.
Yeh Dangerousness does trump all. My wife back then she was my gf watched the movie Driver with Ryan Gosling. For the next few days she kept asking me to be serious all the time like his character in the movie. Mind you the character is a ruthless killer. She wanted me to act like a ruthless killer. Da fuq
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

Read more...

sevbucmash

Master Don Juan
Joined
Sep 10, 2022
Messages
1,047
Reaction score
538
Age
42
So many God damn opinions on this but I want to hear your guys view and also say why you chose the answer. Me personally I think looks matter and it's pretty crazy pickup and game dudes discount it
What looks average here, looks exotic elsewhere.
 

Pandora

Master Don Juan
Joined
Nov 11, 2008
Messages
3,729
Reaction score
3,565
Age
41
What looks average here, looks exotic elsewhere.
Thats why im a passport bro. The quality of poon I got overseas is higher than I would get in the USA. That exotic factor is huge. Go to a country that your look is rare.
 

BadBoy89

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jan 18, 2020
Messages
2,410
Reaction score
2,713
If the woman if young, yes looks matter. She wants to get pregnant.

If the woman is older, looks don’t matter as much. She wants resources.

Remember men, women are on the clock, that makes their wants and needs towards the opposite sex change every minute,
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

Read more...

Top