How much do looks matter

[Thebestthereeveris]

So many God damn opinions on this but I want to hear your guys view and also say why you chose the answer. Me personally I think looks matter and it's pretty crazy pickup and game dudes discount it

 

[Doctor Europeo]

Yes, they matter. But a lot of women wont chase you (like @BeExcellent for example). You could have solid looks but if you never initiate, never escalate, never lead the interaction etc you are going to leave a bunch of p00zy on the table.

 

[crowolf]

Looks matter. But mostly for online dating. In real life you can find other ways to compensate - game, social value, your presence, frame, etc..

I think it comes down to this: as a man, you have to bring value to the table. This is either: good looks, money, status, game, social value, confidence & charisma..

 

[BPH]

They matter a lot, but they're useless if that's all you have.

I have plenty of tall, good-looking friends who don't get laid nearly as much as me because they don't have the confidence to talk to girls, nor the common sense to know how to escalate.

 

[Sega Genesis]

In real life you can find other ways to compensate - game, social value, your presence, frame, etc..

Agree and adding one more - his energy! Or perhaps that falls under his "presence"?

Not sure why energy gets discounted so often.. a man's great energy can trump all those things mentioned imo.

On the other hand, he could be a total Chad in every sense of the word but if his energy is piss poor he's gonna flop!

And I agree with @Dr.Suave , initiate when interested and I don't mean sexually Mode One. Ugh.

That will not fly with a high quality girl... be assertive, confident and respectful.

With a low quality, hoeish type girl Mode One might work. Depends on what you want I spose.

 

[BPH]

initiate when interested and I don't mean sexually Mode One. Ugh.

That will not fly with a quality girl... be assertive, confident and respectful.

You heard it here first @We_ArE_VeNOM

 

[Sega Genesis]

You heard it here first @We_ArE_VeNOM

I don't believe @We_ArE_VeNOM is seeking a "high quality girl" necessarily...he's just seeking a woman he finds hot and is down to f***.

In which case Mode One could work.

My read on it anyway

 

[BPH]

I don't believe @We_ArE_VeNOM is seeking a "high quality girl" necessarily...he's just seeking a woman he finds hot and is down to f***.

In which case Mode One could work.

My read on it anyway

I don't even think "hot" is a requirement. Apparently he slammed a 70-year old not too long ago.

 

[Sega Genesis]

I don't even think "hot" is a requirement. Apparently he slammed a 70-year old not too long ago.

Lol well HE may have found her hot.. who the hell knows!

He has uploaded pics of some of the women he's approached who he found hot... I (and others) were a bit shocked but hey everyone has different tastes right?

 

[Manure Spherian]

So many God damn opinions on this but I want to hear your guys view and also say why you chose the answer. Me personally I think looks matter and it's pretty crazy pickup and game dudes discount it

Plenty of ordinary-looking men have women. But looks help enormously.

Status and dangerousness trump all.

 

[Clockwerk50]

Looks, personality, status, money. Some variables carry more weight than others, and it varies from woman to woman since they are not all the same.

 

[Prepostereax]

Nah. If Looks are all she's got, she's probably a thot.

Looks are only crucial for OLD, when that is all you can go by, initially.

With cold approach, looks help a bit, but body language and vibe are what's essential
(+ fitness/physique holds more weight here, regardless of looks.
Sexiness = How she carries herself, confidence, playfulness).

When it comes to social circles, other more important qualities shine.
Looks become totally irrelevant.
Ice Queens with zero personality are 0/10 in my book.

What matters is:
Self respect. This includes physical fitness, I'm not turned on by women who let themselves go.
Ability to communicate her needs and desires.
Calling me out on things that she has issue with, before it becomes a serious problem.
Character. Putting in effort, matching mine.
Willingness to step out of her comfort zone, even if she doesn't want to.
Not lying, cheating, etc.
Being an example for others.
Supporting me in what I find important, even if it's stuff she's not comfortable with.

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Okay, an example from one of our social circles, there's this woman with a facial deformity, a birthmark.
Her portraits would be sub-five.
But she keeps in shape, runs regularly, eats sensibly, drinks only socially, a fit and trim body.
Works two jobs to make ends meet.
And she's stuck by her man, even though their marriage hit a rocky patch with him going through depression and having to work/travel interstate. She relocated temporarily to support him. I think they're over the worst now.
I've known other couples whose relationships don't survive living apart.

So she has high self respect and high character.
She probably could have plastic surgery or something to improve her facial appearance, but she doesn't need to.
I'd consider her a high value woman.

 

[HaleyBaron]

Culture matters. And yes, skin color gets involved [I know this forum tries to evade the reality, but I think it's important, too].

 

[Pandora]

They matter a lot, but they're useless if that's all you have.

Thats a good way to put it.

 

[Pandora]

Plenty of ordinary-looking men have women. But looks help enormously.

Status and dangerousness trump all.

Yeh Dangerousness does trump all. My wife back then she was my gf watched the movie Driver with Ryan Gosling. For the next few days she kept asking me to be serious all the time like his character in the movie. Mind you the character is a ruthless killer. She wanted me to act like a ruthless killer. Da fuq

 

[sevbucmash]

So many God damn opinions on this but I want to hear your guys view and also say why you chose the answer. Me personally I think looks matter and it's pretty crazy pickup and game dudes discount it

What looks average here, looks exotic elsewhere.

 

[Pandora]

What looks average here, looks exotic elsewhere.

Thats why im a passport bro. The quality of poon I got overseas is higher than I would get in the USA. That exotic factor is huge. Go to a country that your look is rare.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

Looks really matter. And, despite what some argue, if you are GL, you can be a clueless dork and women will still pounce on you. Being GL is a massive cheat code.

 

[PlatoPacks23]

it’s probably 80% BUT there are other avenues as well

 

[BadBoy89]

If the woman if young, yes looks matter. She wants to get pregnant.

If the woman is older, looks don’t matter as much. She wants resources.

Remember men, women are on the clock, that makes their wants and needs towards the opposite sex change every minute,