"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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How many women would you like to date before settling into a LTR?

The_Reaper

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I am going to assume that most of the members here are planning to eventually find a quality woman and settle down with her. My question is, how many women would you ideally like to date before this? And also, my definition of date is not "meet for coffee a few times, end it a week later", I'm talking more long term, at least a couple of months.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Francisco d'Anconia

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Are you asking how many we'd like to lay before we settle down?
 

The_Reaper

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
Are you asking how many we'd like to lay before we settle down?
Why sir, yes I am. But this doesn't include one-night stands, only semi-LTRs or LTRS.
 

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I think having a number like you suggest would be kind of rediculous. If I met a women well suited to myself tonight, would I sacrifice having a relationship with her because I'm on 11 instead of 12?

Forget about rules, know what you want and how to get it when you have the opportunity.

The_Reaper said:
I am going to assume that most of the members here are planning to eventually find a quality woman and settle down with her. My question is, how many women would you ideally like to date before this? And also, my definition of date is not "meet for coffee a few times, end it a week later", I'm talking more long term, at least a couple of months.
 

Francisco d'Anconia

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The_Reaper said:
Why sir, yes I am. But this doesn't include one-night stands, only semi-LTRs or LTRS.
Alright, now I'm intrigued. Why not include ONS? Does this have something to do with bedding women we somewhat care for but not care enough to commit to?
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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speakeasy

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I ask myself that all the time. I don't know. I guess as many as it takes.
 

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As somewhat of a serial monogamist I can say that a LTR does not equal marriage. Nor does a marriage equal lifetime (dont have experience in that category yet though).

Having been in 4 LTRs (8 months +, and 3 having been 18 months +) I can say that the real person doesn't come out for the first month. The next month is the one where you can learn more and get to know whether you want to be with her or not. The third month is typically the one were you break up. Dont bother being serious until you've gotten past this third month, and even then another 9 months of dating can make you realize your in a bad spot.

Every girl gives you a chance to learn and that is what is important. If you're 21 and haven't meet a girl worth dating for 3 months you should consider looking to meet girls in different venues.
 

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dude, i think you are going about this all wrong.
no member on this board is going to come up with the same number and even if they did ....
how can you plan out life like that?

lets say your goal is date 10 women before you settle down with any for a ltr...

#1 acts like she likes you for two weeks and then says she is just your friend
#2 goes out with you but you don't find much chemistry there
#3 starts seeing you but before anything comes out of it, she takes her ex back
#4 goes out on one date with you and you find her to be too loud, too b*tchy and complainy
#5 is out on a date with you but you run into some of her buddies and they hang out with you all night, you find out she is not what you are looking for
#6 drank like a fish that night and slept with you that first night too
as great as that might sound, it leaves a bitter aftertaste the next day when you are wondering if she is always slu*ty like that
#7 turns out to be a workaholic
#8 turns out to have children
#9 you hit it off with and you really adore her. great person. but you can't settle down because you owe yourself one more for your "list"
#10 turns out to be a b*tch
so then you think now i can find one to settle down with
#11 plays head games
#12 is money hungry
#13 takes medication
#14 turns out to be a horrible lay

see... it makes completely no sense to play out to the number.

so i advise you to just go with your gut. if your gut says #9 is worth a shot at ltr... then do what you think and feel is right.

life, dating, it's all an experiment.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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8.

Now turn that 8 on its side.
 
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