Highly reductionistZarky said:Date other women too.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Highly reductionistZarky said:Date other women too.
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
it's just that simple. From that one act, everything you need to "keep a hottie interested" flows naturally.Trader said:Highly reductionist
Wait.... what's wrong w/ a 3-some???samspade said:I was thinking about a HB8.5 or so who I had eating from my hand at one point. I played her perfectly - teased, negged, caveman'd. It was great. Even when she would try to "end it" I would just agree and say "let's be friends then."
My downfall was when she started talking threesomes with us and her female friend. Suddenly I didn't want to lose that piece of a$$. Turned into a holy grail. Of course, I blew it, AFC-style. To this day I think the threesome talk was mostly testing me, though if I played right it may have happened anyway. Live and learn.
^^^ lol this rocks! ^^^BobMo' said:You have to always keep in mind thats she's just another human, and as such, she is self conscious about little things that she perceives as flaws. Since she's not a "10," or even if she's is one of those rare creatures, you see some flaw in her. Focus on that, rather than the other criteria that, in your mind, at least, have elevated her. Every now and then (more often, the hotter you're thinking she is), look down and notice her weird looking big toe.
Give yourself the advantage. You'll need it.
^^^ This is genius in it's simplicity ^^^Fuglydude' said:You can't MAKE HB's like you, but you can make yourself more attractive to her...
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
I actually moved back from the east coast of south florida after living and working there for a few years, to my college town in the midwest.. And totally agree. Whole different ballgame.djzulu said:The hottest, nicest girls were in the mid-west. I am in a big coastal city right now and am dying to move back to the mid-west!!!
The way you do that is to be better than all the other guys, or have something going for you that cannot be duplicated. When I was a pro photographer, there was a huge list of 10+ vags that wanted me, only for that reason. And they never let up simply because they thought I was the key to their future in modeling or getting "discovered." No amount of money or game can approximate the idea that this one guy has control over your life...if you can get him to like you.Trader said:This thread is not about one night stands or short-term flings which are a whole different dynamic.
Who here has been able to successfully attract HB8+ girls, date them AND maintain her interest level while keeping the frame for an extended period of time?
And no, getting BPD girls does not count since they are just messed up. No *ups* for getting with them.