"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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How many matches do you think a normal guy gets on a dating app?

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Like Tinder and Bumble, like how many after a year of being on the app with decent pics and swiping right on everything but fatties, ugly women, and single moms.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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BackInTheGame78

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It all depends. Contrary to popular belief your profile actually matters. If you have a crap profile then you will get crap results. Good profiles can boost your match rate significantly.
 

Who Dares Win

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I am an average guy in terms of L, what I noticed is that old simply reflect what you get outside.

In countries where I have no success I also have no success on old while in countries when I do great in real life I also have matches and dates through old.

Only exception has been this recent lockdown that made women much more proactive and borderline sexually aggressive.

Anyway on old you are fighting with a terrible M : F ratio and app algorithms that not necessarily show you to anyone.
 

SoSuave666

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I’ve got well over 300 matches on hinge in a year. And a lot of them were them liking me too.
I attribute it solely to my profile. My pics are action pics of me all over the world. my comments on the profile are short and witty. Oh and I’ve got a dog that always helps.
 

oldmanofthesea

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OLD is the surest, quickest way to drop your self-esteem.

Personally, if I were to ever try it again, I would create a good profile, submit it and then largely forget about it.

Those who messaged me, I would look at, but I wouldn't be messaging many women.

There are many women on there strictly for an ego boost, to read their messages while they sit alone in the evening.

Many others are there for the free meals, but the largest incentive for women is the attention and ego boost
Add one more reason: Accepting a date from a guy they believe is solidly 3+ HB points above them.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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DelayedGratification

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I have probably 100 matches from Facebook dating in the quarantine time but before that probably 30 per year. I don't use OLD that often though, just a month here and there.
I've also seen an uptick, not only in number of matches but the quality. I think the ability of women to use social circles got killed in the pandemic, so I've noticed an influx of women trying OLD for the first time. They actually respond to messages, and are much more straightforward to interact with. This is the older demographic (40's), it's probably a different story in the 20-something crowd.
 
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