"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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How long is your first date usually?

ilikeburritos

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I'm gonna be taking this girl to a bar for a few drinks tomorrow night. Is there a general minimum or maximum time I want to limit myself to? I couldn't imagine staying longer than an hour, that seems way too long...even if conversation is still flowing. What amount of time do you generally try to shoot for before walking her home or bringing her back to your place?
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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1 to 2 hours MAX for me - ASSUMING things are great and she's interesting.

At a bar, after a few drinks, and depending on whether or not I will be F-Closing, an hour is fine.

There are a lot of factors, rapport for example, and whether or not it's been established through some other interaction prior to the first date.
 
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My last date was almost 2 hours over 2 drinks and I kiss closed, and she has agreed to meet me again this weekend. The 2 hours felt like 30 minutes and I think that's a great sign.

I think I could have F-Closed if we lived close to each other.
 

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ilikeburritos said:
I'm gonna be taking this girl to a bar for a few drinks tomorrow night. Is there a general minimum or maximum time I want to limit myself to? I couldn't imagine staying longer than an hour, that seems way too long...even if conversation is still flowing. What amount of time do you generally try to shoot for before walking her home or bringing her back to your place?
Don't stay longer than 93 minutes.
 

ilikeburritos

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Don't stay longer than 93 minutes.
are you sure? I usually hear 89 minutes max but just wanted to check

PS it doesn't even matter as I just found out I was given a decoy phone number
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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ilikeburritos said:
are you sure? I usually hear 89 minutes max but just wanted to check

PS it doesn't even matter as I just found out I was given a decoy phone number
I have found that 94.5 minutes is actually the key. Book it.
 

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You got to be careful with bars though. I met a "friend", and I say "friend" because thats what she is, but there is more to our relationship, we just cant act upon that because of the situation she is in. Anyways, I asked if she wanted to grab a drink to make her night at work a little more bearable. And I meant a drink. It ended up being 3 each and split fish and chips. She paid though so all is good. :D
 
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