DonGorgon
Master Don Juan
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being out of shape or unhealthy is bad no matter how big or small you are...
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
If a gym has the word fitness in it, it's not a real gym.JackPrescott said:Great advice, and I'll take it myself, for gaining muscle, just join a REAL gym, like a 24/7 or a Defined Fitness, and ask the trainers for help, they HAVE to help you, and are happy to. Start on a real basic program, and hit it hard, and you'll see results, it wont automatically gain female interest, and females are usually sexually retarded, but it's fun when a sub par specimen of a male looks on you with jealousy. Great boost for the old Ego.![]()
Dumb comment. Powerhouse Gym's typically have the words Fitness Center underneath. Top IFBB pro's workout there. You've been reduced.wolf116 said:If a gym has the word fitness in it, it's not a real gym.
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Hah. Thanks for the credit man.KontrollerX said:I like what the poster smoothguy once said and basically it was that you can usually only truly be confident in life when you are proud of the body you are in as then the confidence flows more naturally as you aren't absorbed in the inner struggle of constantly fighting insecurities about your appearance.
Unless you are on roids, training with top bodybuilders is not optimal. Their training will be totally different to a natural.Charm said:Dumb comment. Powerhouse Gym's typically have the words Fitness Center underneath. Top IFBB pro's workout there. You've been reduced.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
ItsOnNow said:Well,I don't know. I keep doing the same thing over and over,and it's like I just can't turn it off.Every night after work,I come home,and do what I can to take my mind off of stuff. It has been this way for some time,and yet here is every one else happy and getting laid.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Basically the definition of insanity. Doing the same thing over & over while expecting a different result.ItsOnNow said:Well,I don't know. I keep doing the same thing over and over,and it's like I just can't turn it off.Every night after work,I come home,and do what I can to take my mind off of stuff. It has been this way for some time,and yet here is every one else happy and getting laid.
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.