"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

Read more...

How do you respond to a date offer being turned down

pdx1138

Master Don Juan
Joined
Feb 24, 2010
Messages
1,298
Reaction score
52
Exoduso said:
Then what's the point of saying she'll make it up, then text me a few hours later saying "hi cutie" and attempting to reinitiate contact the same day?
Because its FUN to string guys along for the attention/control factor, making you jump through hoops like a trained circus animal.
Once I became aware of these AttentionWhoaring games, I implemented a 2 strike rule for such behavior. Fool me once....etc.
Anything more...(for me) is a waste of time.

Regardless, make HER work for it like bigneil said.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

Read more...

Exoduso

Don Juan
Joined
Mar 25, 2013
Messages
58
Reaction score
2
So she did contact a 2nd time tonight... a couple of flirty texts back and forth but nothing concrete about making plans. So now what, am I supposed to ask her out AGAIN this week? I guess it's possible, and if she declines again then I can just move on...

Or, do I say anything about her saying she'll make it up?
 

GhengisKhan

Don Juan
Joined
Apr 2, 2013
Messages
16
Reaction score
0
I have to say, I am frequently surprised by the amount of times I see advice to "next" a woman based upon her inability to make a date. There are women who are legitimately busy, and quite a lot of them: college students, career women, single mothers... my advice is to learn some body language that indicates deception: if she's telling you a lie as an excuse, by all means, next immediately. If she's legitimately busy, that's no reason to dismiss her, unless of course you want to fool around with a boring woman with too much time on her hands (which you may quickly regret).
 

Zarky

Master Don Juan
Joined
Apr 13, 2010
Messages
3,213
Reaction score
89
Location
SoCal
I "next" busy women simply because I forget about them. I get involved with other chicks and the one who was too busy to get together until 2 weeks from Sunday gets lost in the shuffle.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

Read more...

jodel41

New Member
Joined
Nov 12, 2015
Messages
4
Reaction score
0
Age
33
i had a situation in which i asked a girl out on a date and she said she was gonna be busy that day so i gave a counter offer for the next day..she has still not replied me...what do i do next?
 

Yewki

Master Don Juan
Joined
Dec 6, 2013
Messages
1,504
Reaction score
589
i had a situation in which i asked a girl out on a date and she said she was gonna be busy that day so i gave a counter offer for the next day..she has still not replied me...what do i do next?
Go do other things and forget about her. If she ever responds cool... if not, oh well.
 

jodel41

New Member
Joined
Nov 12, 2015
Messages
4
Reaction score
0
Age
33
if she turns me down again..how long should it take for to ask her out again or i should just forget about her totally?
 

Yewki

Master Don Juan
Joined
Dec 6, 2013
Messages
1,504
Reaction score
589
if she turns me down again..how long should it take for to ask her out again or i should just forget about her totally?
The ball is in her court, so let her play ball. If she ignores/rejects your counter, game over.
 

marmel75

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jan 4, 2012
Messages
7,175
Reaction score
5,571
You leave it up to her. Say something like "Well, you seem to have a lot on your plate right now, so I won't add to it. Get back to me if you wanted to meet up some time and I'll see if I'm available."

Simple, to the point, let's her know you aren't playing games with her, you are not going to chase her and you have other options(even if you don't).

That's the hardest part for most guys to realize. Even if you don't have other options at the time, you have to act as if you do.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

Read more...

jodel41

New Member
Joined
Nov 12, 2015
Messages
4
Reaction score
0
Age
33
what if she rejects my counter offer and i just reply with 'okay' and move on or do i give her a third chance?
 

nismo-4

Moderator
Joined
Jan 31, 2005
Messages
4,439
Reaction score
1,143
Location
From New Orleans, Louisiana to Atlanta, Georgia!!!
This thread is old, but if she rejects your date offer, and doesn't counteroffer, just move on. It's a lack of interest.

Only give your time and attention to women interested in you. If you had a date with a Victoria's secret angel, you'd make it happen, barring a family emergency.
 
Top