"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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How do you feel about having a girlfriend but still hooking up with other girls?

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I've got a solid, its nice. But I do get curious sometimes and don't tell girls about her, so I can experience some new stuff. Only cheated twice in total, 1 kiss, two handjob, nothing major. I sleep fine at night too. She knows the girls, but has no clue. Would like to keep her away from any girls I do this with though.

Is this "wrong"? She doesnt cheat, but we arent engaged or anything...Im just living life...you only get to do that once right?

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"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Sure.

Morally its wrong and you risk the chance of losing your girlfriend if she finds out which she very well could.

Why build an emotional attachment with someone only to self endanger it?

Why not just live Leykis 101 and avoid relationships and just hook up with chicks and have short flings??

Its a lot less hassle with pretty much zero emotional baggage.
 
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KontrollerX said:
Sure.

Morally its wrong and you risk the chance of losing your girlfriend if she finds out which she very well could.

Why build an emotional attachment with someone only to self endanger it?

Why not just live Leykis 101 and avoid relationships and just hook up with chicks and have short flings??

Its a lot less hassle with pretty much zero emotional baggage.
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I was living Leykis 101 very successfully until I fell for someone. Suddenly I was beauty, trustworthiness, good-behaving-christian all in this one girl and I fell for her, while still maintaining my old habits of Leykis 101...

I guess I never broke the habit so I'm emotionally attached while still physically having fun...
 
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Is this "wrong"? She doesnt cheat, but we arent engaged or anything...Im just living life...you only get to do that once right?
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I agree with Kontroller that it's morally wrong, and I don't see the point in having her as your girlfriend if you're gonna fuk a bunch of girls on the side. Very lame. Also, if you're gonna do this kind of low integrity stuff, then to keep it fair you have to be cool with her doing it too.
 
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guywhoneedshelp said:
I've got a solid, its nice. But I do get curious sometimes and don't tell girls about her, so I can experience some new stuff. Only cheated twice in total, 1 kiss, two handjob, nothing major. I sleep fine at night too. She knows the girls, but has no clue. Would like to keep her away from any girls I do this with though.

Is this "wrong"? She doesnt cheat, but we arent engaged or anything...Im just living life...you only get to do that once right?

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you obviously arent ready for a commited relationship. dump the chick and experience all the "new stuff" you want.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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when i was hooking up with other girls, i had this guilt at first. but as i did it with more women the guilt went away and soon after my girl found out and we broke up. did i regret hooking up with those chicks? not really. its a tough question but if you really care for the girlfriend then i dont recommend it. its not good for you or her.
 
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I would say there is some underlying insecurity here if you need to have a GF but you don't really want to commit to her. It suggests that you have a constant need for female validation. discuss.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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guywhoneedshelp said:
I was living Leykis 101 very successfully until I fell for someone. Suddenly I was beauty, trustworthiness, good-behaving-christian all in this one girl and I fell for her, while still maintaining my old habits of Leykis 101...

I guess I never broke the habit so I'm emotionally attached while still physically having fun...
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You sound like what we call...a pvssy.

Why do you even have a girlfriend? Really? Why? What do you need this girl friend for? You say you were getting laid, but "Suddenly" you fell under the spell of the woman. Sounds like you're not being honest with us, nor yourself.

You're NOT monogamous, but in a relationship. Why are you even bothering? There is no point to it, if you're not going to be honest with her.

Grow a pair and make a choice.
 
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