How do you completly...

[ItsOnNow]

de-pedestalize a chick? any scale, any type, I know no one is perfect, I don't see chicks as that, but it has been a struggle for me.

 

[Desert Fox]

If she's ever wronged you, focus on that. Focus on her every crappy habit like an annoying laugh or voice or fat rolls or retarded looking face or something that's a huge turn off for you like that. For me, I just image her living in the gutter in the future with her STDs from her being a huge slvt and that usually does the trick.

 

[Thunderstruck7]

just imagine her taking a dump..they all do so it should be easy. think of them sitting on the ****ter makes all kinds of nasty noises as if they are constipated.

 

[JDA70]

de-pedestalize a chick? any scale, any type, I know no one is perfect, I don't see chicks as that, but it has been a struggle for me.

Why are you still having problems with this?

 

[KontrollerX]

I like the strategy T!ttyman once proposed about this...

Picture your dream girl sitting on the toilet and badly in need of a shower and not only imagine this but imagine she is also b!tching at you about child support.

Considering her at her very worst do you still find her all that hot?

If the answer is yes then she's the one for you.

If the answer is no then it is apparent you need to start shopping around for new talent.

 

[DarthAngel707]

If you have to ask that question about depedalizing women that means you're still insecure about yourself. Once you gain your confidence and believe in yourself and your value as a person you will no longer need to put women or anybody for that matter on a pedestal unless you truly respect them.

The question you should be asking is, "How do I gain confidence so that I no longer have to put women on a pedestal and she is the one chasing me?"

Oh and btw thanks for stopping the pity threads.

 

[r0cky]

YOU NEG HER, TEASE HER, DISQUALIFY HER, etc.
Dude before you ask basic questions like these do me a solid:
Do your f.uckin research.

 

[Groovy]

I never have that problem, because, personally, I always pedestilize myself! Not to the point that I'm arrogant, but I know that I'm the prize!

Find the balance in treating people as your equals, (Not disrespecting them) but in having pride in yourself at the same time! This may seem a little hard to imagine, but as soon as you meet someone charismatic, you'll get EXACTLY what I'm talking about!

 

[ItsOnNow]

Oh yes, insecurity is still a big problem for me. I am lacking some serious self confidence, that has been a big problem for me. I haven't even begun. I mean, the post on mall cold approaching, seeing myself do that seems tough. I mean, I need to learn how to do it without coming off as creepy, which is what I want to avoid. I basically cold approach people all day at my job, so you would think it would come natrually. I have been reading the materials on this site, and I seem to be lacking self confidence/esteem, charm, ****yness, I am not often a ****y person. One thing I have been asking is why do we even need this whole process? I mean, what happened in soceity to where we have this neg,tease,disqualify,ignore, etc? What ever happened to just dating and stuff? I really don't go out that often, and don't have much of a social life, which has been a problem as well.

I also ask this cause there is this girl I met through work who I have a crush on. I haven't shown it in any way, but she must know I kinda like her? we have gone out a few times, in groups mostly, and it wasn't like any one of us was struggling to be in control. Anyways, this girl has always been incredibly sweet to me, not to mention she's an 8 I would say. I have her number, and am a bit nervous.

 

[r0cky]

Oh yes, insecurity is still a big problem for me. I am lacking some serious self confidence, that has been a big problem for me. I haven't even begun. I mean, the post on mall cold approaching, seeing myself do that seems tough. I mean, I need to learn how to do it without coming off as creepy, which is what I want to avoid. I basically cold approach people all day at my job, so you would think it would come natrually. I have been reading the materials on this site, and I seem to be lacking self confidence/esteem, charm, ****yness, I am not often a ****y person. One thing I have been asking is why do we even need this whole process? I mean, what happened in soceity to where we have this neg,tease,disqualify,ignore, etc? What ever happened to just dating and stuff? I really don't go out that often, and don't have much of a social life, which has been a problem as well.

Becuase before computers, geeks like you didn't sit all day playing warcraft or second life all day and watching porn to fulfill their horniness, they HAD to be social in order not to die from boredom.
Butoes it really matter why this works? jesus christ on a dipstick just go out and do the sh.t then you'll see how it all makes sense. Then you'll quit posting useless r repetitive crap.

 

[ItsOnNow]

Well, that's it, I keep reading all this, and haven't really absorbed it in. I am clueless to alot. This is what's killed me, not having learned it all as everyone else did. I mean, If I go solo, does that hurt my chances more?

 

[r0cky]

Well, that's it, I keep reading all this, and haven't really absorbed it in. I am clueless to alot. This is what's killed me, not having learned it all as everyone else did. I mean, If I go solo, does that hurt my chances more?

Chances of what? getting laid? lmao. you're kidding right?
what are your chances of letting laid right now?

If you really wanna lean this sh.it u have to man up and do the DJ bootcamp.
Its all right there under your nose.

 

[Groovy]

To say it like bruce would say it, If you wanna learn how to swim, you gotta jump in the water! In dry land no frame of mind is ever going to help you.

 

[DrD77]

learn to swim, learn to swim, learn to swim- tool

 

[daygameguy]

there are a few ways to do that:

1. use disinterested body language
2. use a neg (or more)
3. kino her in a way that instantly makes her feel like you are just being friendly and nothing more than that - like a friendly hug, high five, knuckle punch (i dont know what to exactly call it)

In my opinion, that should be all that you need to do, for the first few moments of the interaction.

You might also want to have good inner game, so you have the balls to do the above things. Which means, you need to ASSUME value as well, see yourself as the prize, and then do the above acts.

 

[PrinceBeavis]

Picture in your mind, you placing her on a beautiful marble pedestal. So now she is standing on a pedestal, and you are on the floor. What can you do? Can you go anywhere with her? No. The pedestal is too heavy and won't fit in your car. Can you hold her hand? Nope. Can't reach. Can you get next to her? No.

About all you can do is kiss her feet, which may be fun foreplay for many, but that's as far as that goes. And think about how she would feel about having to be made to stand upon that hard, cold, marble. She can't go anywhere. She'd feel like an object, not a person, a prisoner, and she'd begin to resent you pretty quickly. Her feet would get sore. And from the temperature of the stone, she would soon get cold feet.

Then picture yourself taking her down from there, and going off to do something with her next to you. Hands match hands. Face matches face. Eye can meet eye. And genital meets genital without the use of a ladder.

 

[ItsOnNow]

Inner game,disinterested,kino, all seems idk, hard. I mean, doesn't that only work if she already likes you, and you have to be a challenge and all that? As for "seeing myself as the prize", I am a rather modest person. Could that be affecting me? I don't have this strong sense of self worth and value as you say.

 

[daygameguy]

Inner game,disinterested,kino, all seems idk, hard. I mean, doesn't that only work if she already likes you, and you have to be a challenge and all that? As for "seeing myself as the prize", I am a rather modest person. Could that be affecting me? I don't have this strong sense of self worth and value as you say.

Everything with value in life is hard to get.

I have severe problems as well you know, but i dont rant about it, because problems are a part of life. I am modest and humble as well.. but that doesn't mean I do not value myself.

We live in a really backwards culture, and a fukced up society. Stop trying to be the nice guy. Be a good guy, who is strong and alpha, and has a high value which sucks people into his world.

Do some research, build a knowledge base, get out of your head, and approach. you will get ALL your doubts cleared in the field.

 

[daygameguy]

Inner game,disinterested,kino, all seems idk, hard. I mean, doesn't that only work if she already likes you, and you have to be a challenge and all that? As for "seeing myself as the prize", I am a rather modest person. Could that be affecting me? I don't have this strong sense of self worth and value as you say.

I want to read your FR. Do an approach. Make it happen. You got only 1 life to live. DONT WASTE IT.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WO4tIrjBDkk

Dont worry about the counter-intuitive stuff (negs, etc), JUST DO IT and enjoy the results.

I want to read an FR by you. Make all haters eat their words. Now look at the mirror... say I AM THE 10!!!... She is privileged to be with me.

good luck.

 

[ItsOnNow]

I'm not a nice guy, as described as the validation seeking,ass kissing, human doormat type, I'm more a regular guy. As for alpha, it seems some guys already are. you either are or not.

I have trouble valuing myself, I am trying to get over it. I am trying to figure out how too.

I am trying to work up the action/initiative to aproach and get in the field.

It's like I am trying to find that fine tuned way of going for it.