"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
How do I handle a manipulative gf?
- Thread starter That_guy
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"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
women haze
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I'm in the Mood
Master Don Juan
what did she do...?That_guy said:
"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
-Went and got coffee with two different guys on two different occasions without telling me (she told me later, and it was just as friends) On top of that, though she swore that she told that one dude she has a BF, he does not seem to know. Also she was reluctant to introduce me to him as her BF (srsly wtf it took me a lot of tries to finally convince her and even then she does not seem so thrilled) Ok so off-chance that she might like the company of male friends, how come I cannot have a coffee date with MY female friends.
-Its only been a week and we only became facebook official now, which she was reluctant to do as well.
I dont know if its me with the trust issues.
I am changing the question: How do I beat this oneitis? Or save-a-hoe-itis? I seriously dont feel right...........how do I handle this? so close to Christmas and ****
I'll start with the fact that' it's only been a week and you're trying to control this girl and have to twist her arm to have her introduce you as her boyfriend and make it "facebook official."
You're acting really insecure / controling , I don't see her staying with you long.
You have to get yourself in a not so obsessed mindset. You can't bother to be cared if she goes and gets coffee with some dude and you sure as hell can with females if you want to.
You should be too busy hanging out w/ buddies / other girls if you want to w/e. Definitely shouldn't be worried about the relationship status on facebook like that or formalities with what she calls you, sounds like stuff girls get worried about.
Iceberg
Master Don Juan
He is.joverby said:
Over the course of 2 weeks, he's gone from asking how to ask a girl out, to thanking Sosuave for helping him get his first "LTR" (it's been a week), and now he's asking how to handle a manipulative gf.
So the only thing left to wonder is...why? Why is this man trolling on a men's site, just to get the attention of men he'll never meet...
"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
NewAndImproved
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I bet you're the one who forced her to make things "Facebook official."
Should be the other way around.
She's just not that into you. Learn from your mistakes and try again.
You're really insecure / controlling. I can't stress how much your over looking you've been "dating"(Forced) this girl for A WEEK!! If this was your wife or something you might be in a position to ***** / freak out about it.That_guy said:
Maybe she's talking to other dudes because the guy she thought was normal / fun / cool is turning into a insecure control freak?
"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
In her mind she has already crossed you out as "another nice guys aka ass kisser" she is with you right now because she has not found another dude yet.. trust when she'll find one she will dump you from the highest building in your city. so yeah be prepared or act before it happens.
Now to liberate yourself from oneitis you have to realize that this woman is just a woman, she has boobs just like any women, and a gina just like any women. You will not be the devil for breaking up with her, she does not respect you (even though you havent done anything to establish that respect) and doesnt really care at this point, if you have any balls just do it
PrettyBoyAJ
Master Don Juan
For me however. If a girl see's no problem in going out with another guy one on one then I don't see a relationship period.
Things have gotten out of control in one week with your girlfriend because you didn't lay down the law. You shouldn't have gotten into this relationship in the first place because she obviously doesn't comprehend the disrespect she is showing.
PrettyBoyAJ
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She obviously did but I think your missing the bigger picture. I'm pretty sure it happened BECAUSE of his AFC / clingy behavior. He can be upset for her doing that but I think it would be wise for some self reflection.PrettyBoyAJ said:
"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.