"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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How did this particular approach go so wrong?

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I'm finding lately that I have a gift for talking to people. Turning that into successful number closes, however is a work in progress.

was in the checkout line tonight at my local grocery store.

"You know...it seems like whenever I walk in here, I need one particular thing that then takes me 30 minutes to find."

She laughed.

"I'm starfishandcoffee."

we BSed about the weather and her bottle of wine, and she seemed happy enough talking to me...not fawning, but I'd have been comfortable asking for a number, given the 2 minute conversation. Then here's what I came out swinging with, since I was up next in line...

"So, under any other circumstance, I'd ask you what you were up to tonight. But then it's probably the same thing we're all up to on a Tuesday...doing homework in our pajamas like me."

Her pleasant demeanor turned into a smirk.

"Well, good for you."

And that was that.

Was this doomed from the start of the approach? I'm not even sure *what* it was I did wrong, even though I know I did it. It may be time to start Don Juan Boot Camp...
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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starfishandcoffee said:
Her pleasant demeanor turned into a smirk.

"Well, good for you."
WARNING..Warning...
B!tch alert...b!tch alert...

Beep
Beep
Beep

Not worth the effort...Not worth the effort...Not worth the effort...

EDIT: Some girls like to play innocuous princess until they're sure they've got you and then...SNAP. The same behavior is observable in several members of the animal kingdom. I just call them LOW-CLASS B!TCHES.
 
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If she was a total ***** (which I understand), then what was with the whole opening "nice" act. Wouldn't a diva want to be a diva 24/7?
 

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I don't get it..... After she smirked, what happened? Did you just stop talking or did she walk away? How did the interaction end? I mean, it sounds like you were doing good. You may have shut yourself out with that comment "so under any other circumstance..." but you were doing good.
 

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You never know what you're gonna get with a cold approach. Nothing should surprise you, they know what you're after.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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starfishandcoffee said:
I'm finding lately that I have a gift for talking to people. Turning that into successful number closes, however is a work in progress.

was in the checkout line tonight at my local grocery store.

"You know...it seems like whenever I walk in here, I need one particular thing that then takes me 30 minutes to find."

She laughed.

"I'm starfishandcoffee."

we BSed about the weather and her bottle of wine, and she seemed happy enough talking to me...not fawning, but I'd have been comfortable asking for a number, given the 2 minute conversation. Then here's what I came out swinging with, since I was up next in line...

"So, under any other circumstance, I'd ask you what you were up to tonight. But then it's probably the same thing we're all up to on a Tuesday...doing homework in our pajamas like me."

Her pleasant demeanor turned into a smirk.

"Well, good for you."

And that was that.

Was this doomed from the start of the approach? I'm not even sure *what* it was I did wrong, even though I know I did it. It may be time to start Don Juan Boot Camp...

Most likely it was the fact she had wine and you alluded to meeting her tonight and said "pajamas". The chick picked up that you were looking to come over, drink wine and fvck her.

You could've said: What're you up to tonight? Doing homework like me? Then followed up with something like: Are you good with numbers? Put yours in my phone and we could go wine tasting sometime. (Since she had wine)

If she would've blown you off regardless you could've said something along the lines of: Why leave with sour grapes? Anyway I grade this brief interaction with a "C". C you later!
 
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MikeAndIke said:
I don't get it..... After she smirked, what happened? Did you just stop talking or did she walk away? How did the interaction end? I mean, it sounds like you were doing good. You may have shut yourself out with that comment "so under any other circumstance..." but you were doing good.
I'd just gotten back from the gym, and I didn't appreciate the cvck-punch she'd just given me.

so, yes...I stood there like a b1tch for 30 seconds until I was called to come up next. throw your rotten vegetables.

Darth said:
Some girls like to play innocuous princess until they're sure they've got you and then...SNAP. The same behavior is observable in several members of the animal kingdom. I just call them LOW-CLASS B!TCHES.
This is depressing...however, this why I've stopped taking women seriously. Baby steps.

Naughty Ninja said:
Most likely it was the fact she had wine and you alluded to meeting her tonight and said "pajamas". The chick picked up that you were looking to come over, drink wine and fvck her.

You could've said: What're you up to tonight? Doing homework like me? Then followed up with something like: Are you good with numbers? Put yours in my phone and we could go wine tasting sometime. (Since she had wine)

If she would've blown you off regardless you could've said something along the lines of: Why leave with sour grapes? Anyway I grade this brief interaction with a "C". C you later!
good to know I'm on the right track. I wasn't even intending to hit on her, and it just happened. which, as I believe, is the way these things should happen...
 
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