"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Hot Maid Alert- Please Advise!

Odisseo

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What's up guys! I am kind of unsure how to proceed with this girl so I figured I would ask in here. Here's what happened:

Two months ago I decided to try out amazon cleaning services. Hot Latina showed up and cleaned my apartment for hours while I was there. I attempted to have some conversations but she didn't speak English much at all, so aside a couple smiles and looks I was mostly on my computer doing work... there was some tension though I wasn't able to escalate...

I know I know, you experienced don Juans are probably reading my last paragraph and wondering what's wrong with me... I should have gone for it then but unfortunately I didn't. We never exchanged any messages although I do still have her number because she texted me when she arrived to my building.

I honestly have no idea how to open the conversation. Any suggestions for a good text opener??? Might as well give it a try!

Thanks so much!
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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My policy; never fvck around with the hired help.

I don't even fvck with women from the office.

Seen enough, known enough to know it's bad for a man.
 

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Maybe start with chattain’t to and dating civilian women before you try gaming a non English speaking cleaner who is only in your house to clean. That’s a big task and I wouldn’t even bother unless she was a 9.
 

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No conversation needed...grab her hand and lead her to your bedroom. She will either follow or won't...everyone understands the language of sex. No translation needed.
 

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No conversation needed...grab her hand and lead her to your bedroom. She will either follow or won't...everyone understands the language of sex. No translation needed.
dude, that has rape charge written all over it. but the optics of the scenario you present are amusing to envision.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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What's up guys! I am kind of unsure how to proceed with this girl so I figured I would ask in here. Here's what happened:

Two months ago I decided to try out amazon cleaning services. Hot Latina showed up and cleaned my apartment for hours while I was there. I attempted to have some conversations but she didn't speak English much at all, so aside a couple smiles and looks I was mostly on my computer doing work... there was some tension though I wasn't able to escalate...

I know I know, you experienced don Juans are probably reading my last paragraph and wondering what's wrong with me... I should have gone for it then but unfortunately I didn't. We never exchanged any messages although I do still have her number because she texted me when she arrived to my building.

I honestly have no idea how to open the conversation. Any suggestions for a good text opener??? Might as well give it a try!

Thanks so much!
seriously? I don't know, much danger here in this scenario. I mean unless she's literally naked on your bed, signed a notarized form and is literally begging you for it, no way you should go there. I know, probably a lot of porn movies started that way but that's where you should leave it, in the porn movies.
 

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dude, that has rape charge written all over it. but the optics of the scenario you present are amusing to envision.
Last time I checked you actually had to rape someone to be charged with rape. Being bold does not equate to rape.

Obviously if she isnt down for it you don't force it. Guys need to stop being scared of their own shadows.
 

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Last time I checked you actually had to rape someone to be charged with rape. Being bold does not equate to rape.

Obviously if she isnt down for it you don't force it. Guys need to stop being scared of their own shadows.

The moment you touch her she can have you charged with assault
 

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OP, clean your own place and go out and met women. Sitting there fantasizing about a cleaning lady is going to get you in serious trouble
 

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The moment you touch her she can have you charged with assault
If she can prove that you touched her in a way that qualifies as assault and can't be easily turned into he said she said or played off by your lawyer as a mistake/friendly/benign/etc. Misunderstanding. Going to jail for a crime isn't that easy if she tries and she won't want to go through all of that because a guy hits on her.


Though I agree with you that it's way too risky and never going to work unless OP looks like Johnny bravo or the old spice guy, (or she's drunk/particularly easy or something)
 
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"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Two months ago I decided to try out amazon cleaning services. Hot Latina showed up and cleaned my apartment for hours while I was there. I attempted to have some conversations but she didn't speak English much at all, so aside a couple smiles and looks I was mostly on my computer doing work... there was some tension though I wasn't able to escalate...
So... You found a hot young latina maid who barely speaks english?

A young woman who wants to work as a cleaning lady

A young adult who is in america and has a job but speaks little English

Dear penthouse forum...

I honestly have no idea how to open the conversation. Any suggestions for a good text opener??? Might as well give it a try!
Brush up on as much spanish as possible to make conversing easier and ask her where she's from, and for some spanish food recommendations as a starter then work your way from there.
 

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What's up guys! I am kind of unsure how to proceed with this girl so I figured I would ask in here. Here's what happened:

Two months ago I decided to try out amazon cleaning services. Hot Latina showed up and cleaned my apartment for hours while I was there. I attempted to have some conversations but she didn't speak English much at all, so aside a couple smiles and looks I was mostly on my computer doing work... there was some tension though I wasn't able to escalate...

I know I know, you experienced don Juans are probably reading my last paragraph and wondering what's wrong with me... I should have gone for it then but unfortunately I didn't. We never exchanged any messages although I do still have her number because she texted me when she arrived to my building.

I honestly have no idea how to open the conversation. Any suggestions for a good text opener??? Might as well give it a try!

Thanks so much!
open up with something that you can spot on her, for example if she did her hair a certain way, Say something like "Looks very nice" point to her hair and see if she smiles or giggles about it. Feel it out from there. The point is to see how she reacts towards you.
 

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Start fapping to porn while she's cleaning.

if she runs away, order another one.

Keep going until you find one that will help.
 

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Last time I checked you actually had to rape someone to be charged with rape. Being bold does not equate to rape.

Obviously if she isnt down for it you don't force it. Guys need to stop being scared of their own shadows.
I disagree with you. Would you treat a family member this way? She's there to earn a living.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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I disagree with you. Would you treat a family member this way? She's there to earn a living.
OP isn't concerned with that. And she isn't a family member. Maybe she wants some d!ck too. Who knows. Some women fantasize about this type of situation...never know until he tries it.
 

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Wow...

So many women in the planet, and you zoom in on the one hire to clean your place. Then you are asking advice on what to text her?
AFC to a new degree. Unless this is a person proving this forum on what kind of stuff goes in here. Anyway, she's there for work, so drop it.
Unless she initiated any sort of interest where sure, ask for a date. Other then that, let it go. IMO you should get out more.
 

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OP isn't concerned with that. And she isn't a family member. Maybe she wants some d!ck too. Who knows. Some women fantasize about this type of situation...never know until he tries it.
And if she isnt down to bang, hire another one next week. Wash, rinse, repeat. LOL
 

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OP isn't concerned with that. And she isn't a family member. Maybe she wants some d!ck too. Who knows. Some women fantasize about this type of situation...never know until he tries it.
Bummer, you are scary. Would you treat a family member this way? Is this masculine to you? The girl is there to work, drop it -
 

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Bummer, you are scary. Would you treat a family member this way? Is this masculine to you? The girl is there to work, drop it -
Right...I'm sure you have the same rules in place for bartenders, strippers, etc right?
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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