"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

Read more...

Hot Maid Alert- Please Advise!

Odisseo

Don Juan
Joined
Nov 12, 2013
Messages
83
Reaction score
6
What's up guys! I am kind of unsure how to proceed with this girl so I figured I would ask in here. Here's what happened:

Two months ago I decided to try out amazon cleaning services. Hot Latina showed up and cleaned my apartment for hours while I was there. I attempted to have some conversations but she didn't speak English much at all, so aside a couple smiles and looks I was mostly on my computer doing work... there was some tension though I wasn't able to escalate...

I know I know, you experienced don Juans are probably reading my last paragraph and wondering what's wrong with me... I should have gone for it then but unfortunately I didn't. We never exchanged any messages although I do still have her number because she texted me when she arrived to my building.

I honestly have no idea how to open the conversation. Any suggestions for a good text opener??? Might as well give it a try!

Thanks so much!
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

Read more...

Spaz

Banned
Joined
Jan 14, 2018
Messages
8,337
Reaction score
6,878
My policy; never fvck around with the hired help.

I don't even fvck with women from the office.

Seen enough, known enough to know it's bad for a man.
 

Murk

Master Don Juan
Joined
Aug 17, 2017
Messages
4,359
Reaction score
3,322
Age
37
Location
London
Maybe start with chattain’t to and dating civilian women before you try gaming a non English speaking cleaner who is only in your house to clean. That’s a big task and I wouldn’t even bother unless she was a 9.
 

marmel75

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jan 4, 2012
Messages
7,175
Reaction score
5,571
No conversation needed...grab her hand and lead her to your bedroom. She will either follow or won't...everyone understands the language of sex. No translation needed.
 

highSpeed

Master Don Juan
Joined
Nov 20, 2011
Messages
1,022
Reaction score
896
No conversation needed...grab her hand and lead her to your bedroom. She will either follow or won't...everyone understands the language of sex. No translation needed.
dude, that has rape charge written all over it. but the optics of the scenario you present are amusing to envision.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

Read more...

highSpeed

Master Don Juan
Joined
Nov 20, 2011
Messages
1,022
Reaction score
896
What's up guys! I am kind of unsure how to proceed with this girl so I figured I would ask in here. Here's what happened:

Two months ago I decided to try out amazon cleaning services. Hot Latina showed up and cleaned my apartment for hours while I was there. I attempted to have some conversations but she didn't speak English much at all, so aside a couple smiles and looks I was mostly on my computer doing work... there was some tension though I wasn't able to escalate...

I know I know, you experienced don Juans are probably reading my last paragraph and wondering what's wrong with me... I should have gone for it then but unfortunately I didn't. We never exchanged any messages although I do still have her number because she texted me when she arrived to my building.

I honestly have no idea how to open the conversation. Any suggestions for a good text opener??? Might as well give it a try!

Thanks so much!
seriously? I don't know, much danger here in this scenario. I mean unless she's literally naked on your bed, signed a notarized form and is literally begging you for it, no way you should go there. I know, probably a lot of porn movies started that way but that's where you should leave it, in the porn movies.
 

marmel75

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jan 4, 2012
Messages
7,175
Reaction score
5,571
dude, that has rape charge written all over it. but the optics of the scenario you present are amusing to envision.
Last time I checked you actually had to rape someone to be charged with rape. Being bold does not equate to rape.

Obviously if she isnt down for it you don't force it. Guys need to stop being scared of their own shadows.
 

ERB

Don Juan
Joined
May 29, 2015
Messages
117
Reaction score
47
Location
In her dreams
Last time I checked you actually had to rape someone to be charged with rape. Being bold does not equate to rape.

Obviously if she isnt down for it you don't force it. Guys need to stop being scared of their own shadows.

The moment you touch her she can have you charged with assault
 

ERB

Don Juan
Joined
May 29, 2015
Messages
117
Reaction score
47
Location
In her dreams
OP, clean your own place and go out and met women. Sitting there fantasizing about a cleaning lady is going to get you in serious trouble
 

devilkingx2

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jul 9, 2013
Messages
4,521
Reaction score
2,229
Location
NYC
The moment you touch her she can have you charged with assault
If she can prove that you touched her in a way that qualifies as assault and can't be easily turned into he said she said or played off by your lawyer as a mistake/friendly/benign/etc. Misunderstanding. Going to jail for a crime isn't that easy if she tries and she won't want to go through all of that because a guy hits on her.


Though I agree with you that it's way too risky and never going to work unless OP looks like Johnny bravo or the old spice guy, (or she's drunk/particularly easy or something)
 
Last edited:

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

Read more...

devilkingx2

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jul 9, 2013
Messages
4,521
Reaction score
2,229
Location
NYC
Two months ago I decided to try out amazon cleaning services. Hot Latina showed up and cleaned my apartment for hours while I was there. I attempted to have some conversations but she didn't speak English much at all, so aside a couple smiles and looks I was mostly on my computer doing work... there was some tension though I wasn't able to escalate...
So... You found a hot young latina maid who barely speaks english?

A young woman who wants to work as a cleaning lady

A young adult who is in america and has a job but speaks little English

Dear penthouse forum...

I honestly have no idea how to open the conversation. Any suggestions for a good text opener??? Might as well give it a try!
Brush up on as much spanish as possible to make conversing easier and ask her where she's from, and for some spanish food recommendations as a starter then work your way from there.
 

In2theGame

Master Don Juan
Joined
Oct 17, 2005
Messages
2,190
Reaction score
1,147
Age
43
Location
New York City
What's up guys! I am kind of unsure how to proceed with this girl so I figured I would ask in here. Here's what happened:

Two months ago I decided to try out amazon cleaning services. Hot Latina showed up and cleaned my apartment for hours while I was there. I attempted to have some conversations but she didn't speak English much at all, so aside a couple smiles and looks I was mostly on my computer doing work... there was some tension though I wasn't able to escalate...

I know I know, you experienced don Juans are probably reading my last paragraph and wondering what's wrong with me... I should have gone for it then but unfortunately I didn't. We never exchanged any messages although I do still have her number because she texted me when she arrived to my building.

I honestly have no idea how to open the conversation. Any suggestions for a good text opener??? Might as well give it a try!

Thanks so much!
open up with something that you can spot on her, for example if she did her hair a certain way, Say something like "Looks very nice" point to her hair and see if she smiles or giggles about it. Feel it out from there. The point is to see how she reacts towards you.
 

taiyuu_otoko

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jan 10, 2008
Messages
5,763
Reaction score
4,856
Location
象外
Start fapping to porn while she's cleaning.

if she runs away, order another one.

Keep going until you find one that will help.
 

marvinlfloresq

Don Juan
Joined
Oct 2, 2018
Messages
194
Reaction score
74
Age
46
Last time I checked you actually had to rape someone to be charged with rape. Being bold does not equate to rape.

Obviously if she isnt down for it you don't force it. Guys need to stop being scared of their own shadows.
I disagree with you. Would you treat a family member this way? She's there to earn a living.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

Read more...

marmel75

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jan 4, 2012
Messages
7,175
Reaction score
5,571
I disagree with you. Would you treat a family member this way? She's there to earn a living.
OP isn't concerned with that. And she isn't a family member. Maybe she wants some d!ck too. Who knows. Some women fantasize about this type of situation...never know until he tries it.
 

marvinlfloresq

Don Juan
Joined
Oct 2, 2018
Messages
194
Reaction score
74
Age
46
Wow...

So many women in the planet, and you zoom in on the one hire to clean your place. Then you are asking advice on what to text her?
AFC to a new degree. Unless this is a person proving this forum on what kind of stuff goes in here. Anyway, she's there for work, so drop it.
Unless she initiated any sort of interest where sure, ask for a date. Other then that, let it go. IMO you should get out more.
 

Glassguy

Moderator
Joined
Apr 25, 2016
Messages
4,789
Reaction score
8,861
Age
49
OP isn't concerned with that. And she isn't a family member. Maybe she wants some d!ck too. Who knows. Some women fantasize about this type of situation...never know until he tries it.
And if she isnt down to bang, hire another one next week. Wash, rinse, repeat. LOL
 

marvinlfloresq

Don Juan
Joined
Oct 2, 2018
Messages
194
Reaction score
74
Age
46
OP isn't concerned with that. And she isn't a family member. Maybe she wants some d!ck too. Who knows. Some women fantasize about this type of situation...never know until he tries it.
Bummer, you are scary. Would you treat a family member this way? Is this masculine to you? The girl is there to work, drop it -
 

marmel75

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jan 4, 2012
Messages
7,175
Reaction score
5,571
Bummer, you are scary. Would you treat a family member this way? Is this masculine to you? The girl is there to work, drop it -
Right...I'm sure you have the same rules in place for bartenders, strippers, etc right?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

Read more...

Top