"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

Hostage fantasy

Thread starter Cinamon
Start date Jul 13, 2009

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Cinamon

Senior Don Juan

#1

Has anyone ever dated a woman who said her most erotic fantasy was to be held hostage and raped. What did you make of that and did you follow through?

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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prairiedog24

Senior Don Juan

#2

Yes. Once. As in the dated part, not the follow through. =)

The hostage fantasy didn't weird me out much, except that it had happened to her. Serious.

Last edited: Jul 13, 2009

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worship

Banned

#3

Cinamon said:
Has anyone ever dated a woman who said her most erotic fantasy was to be held hostage and raped. What did you make of that and did you follow through?

LoL Cinamon you have some wild fantasies you naughty girl.

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Conquer

Banned

#4

I wouldn't go as far as judging a woman on her sexual fantasies, but legally this could be trouble. Personally abusive type of stuff isn't my cup of tea. I couldn't even pretend rape someone, would just be weird.

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scrouds

Master Don Juan

#5

Sounds like fun. Add to that sex at knifepoint.

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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WC2

Master Don Juan

#6

I've always kept a pair of handcuffs and a whip behind my bed; Girls rarely deny it.

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Cinamon

Senior Don Juan

#7

Conquer said:
I wouldn't go as far as judging a woman on her sexual fantasies, but legally this could be trouble. Personally abusive type of stuff isn't my cup of tea. I couldn't even pretend rape someone, would just be weird.

Its not trouble legally. You set up a safe word and if you have to, you can get written consent before hand, and video it, to prove the person was a willing participant. You can work around the glitches.

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