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Hooking up with female friends on the Valentine's day

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Valentine's day is just around the corner! Do you guys think it's easier to hook up with your single female friends (with whom you haven't had any s*xual or romantic history) on the Valentine's day? How do you initiate?
 
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"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Why would you have female friends? I've never gotten trapped in a friend zone with a woman I found physically attractive.

The only reason I can think of having female friends is if you met a woman prior to puberty and she's stayed in your life because neither of you ever moved away from the same area where you grew up. Women like that can help with a good social circle.
 

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Why would you have female friends? I've never gotten trapped in a friend zone with a woman I found physically attractive.

The only reason I can think of having female friends is if you met a woman prior to puberty and she's stayed in your life because neither of you ever moved away from the same area where you grew up. Women like that can help with a good social circle.
These are female friends from many years back. I don't make female friends anymore.

They are mostly HB5-6s that that were interested in me in the past. So I guess it's safe to say they ended up in my friend zone rather than the other way around. I guess after all they might still have some feelings, but because years have past I'm not quite sure.
 

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These are female friends from many years back. I don't make female friends anymore.

They are mostly HB5-6s that that were interested in me in the past. So I guess it's safe to say they ended up in my friend zone rather than the other way around. I guess after all they might still have some feelings, but because years have past I'm not quite sure.
Apply Iron Rule of Tomassi #7 to this situation.

Iron Rule of Tomassi #7

It is always time and effort better spent developing new, fresh, prospective women than it will ever be in attempting to reconstruct a failed relationship. Never root through the trash once the garbage has been dragged to the curb. You get messy, your neighbors see you do it, and what you thought was worth digging for is never as valuable as you thought it was.

A female friend is a form of a failed relationship. It failed to even materialize into a romantic relationship that could fail at some point.

If these women in the 5-6.5 range never became your girlfriends, that's on you for not making it happen. If they were interested and you didn't get the bang on those, that speaks to your skill level in seduction at one time in the past.

Move forward and meet new women.
 

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Hi Cyrus,
" How do you initiate? "Well a Card with an invite out for a drink is a good start.
 

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Apply Iron Rule of Tomassi #7 to this situation.

Iron Rule of Tomassi #7

It is always time and effort better spent developing new, fresh, prospective women than it will ever be in attempting to reconstruct a failed relationship. Never root through the trash once the garbage has been dragged to the curb. You get messy, your neighbors see you do it, and what you thought was worth digging for is never as valuable as you thought it was.

A female friend is a form of a failed relationship. It failed to even materialize into a romantic relationship that could fail at some point.

If these women in the 5-6.5 range never became your girlfriends, that's on you for not making it happen. If they were interested and you didn't get the bang on those, that speaks to your skill level in seduction at one time in the past.
I had girlfriends at the time and that was why these relationship did not develop, not because my seduction s*cked.

I also have 2 new plates right now, but I'd rather avoid spending the Valentine's day with them as they'd probably expect gifts, etc.

Re the Iron Rules of Tomassi, I really think they're amazing guidlines for developing a redpill mentality. However, as pook says "be not contained by formula" ;) In general, I find it quite insightful to try game from different angles and develop a better RP understanding.

Hi Cyrus,
" How do you initiate? "Well a Card with an invite out for a drink is a good start.
Thanks for advice Scaramouche! I think I'm gonna go with the drink but through a phone call as I think a card is a bit too romantic and formal for what I have in mind. I'd rather keep things casual.
 

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Hi Cyrus,
There are three Days in the Year when women are at their most vulnerable,Their Birthday,Christmas and Valentines Day....They just don't like to be lonely at such time...Sure making a quick phone call is the sensible thing to do,but Women aren't sensible they are Emotional Right Hemisphere People and handled correctly can be putty in your hands!
 

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Hi Cyrus,
There are three Days in the Year when women are at their most vulnerable,Their Birthday,Christmas and Valentines Day....They just don't like to be lonely at such time...Sure making a quick phone call is the sensible thing to do,but Women aren't sensible they are Emotional Right Hemisphere People and handled correctly can be putty in your hands!
Hi Scramouche,

To make sure I understand what you suggest, do you think that sending a card works better than a call since it triggers more emotions in a woman?
 

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Hi Cyrus,
Of course a Card triggers more emotions...Phones kill any spark of romanicism,they are dull and pedestrian,a Card with a few shmaltzy words is tangible proof that she is desirable,that someone cares,it's something she can show her mates.
 

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i wouldnt try to hook up with female friends. thats mad creepy honestly. its a sign of pure desperation with women if you start thinking about hooking up with your female friends.

with female friends only tim eu sleep with them is one of those "it happens" situations where you were both drunk one night and both were feeling lonely or she just broke up with someone or u just broke up with someone

now friends of female friends = totally ideal
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Hi Cyrus,
Get yourself a Card just write in it...Lovely .....,I wish I were a rosebud,and you might pluck me for your bower,I'd die upon your snow white breast a happy wintry flower,why not be my Valentine tonight?,Cyrus....chose a venue close to your pad,have a bottle of wine in the frig and a Beef Strogonoff in the slow cooker and you are in like Flynn.
 

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Why would you have female friends? I've never gotten trapped in a friend zone with a woman I found physically attractive.

The only reason I can think of having female friends is if you met a woman prior to puberty and she's stayed in your life because neither of you ever moved away from the same area where you grew up. Women like that can help with a good social circle.
What an absolute clown.

This kind of dumb*ss mentality is why I left the forums.
 
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