iqqi
Master Don Juan
I am so glad you said this. I think my next post will tackle this head on.joekerr31 said:part of me wonders how much we as men really like women and how much of it is we like to f*ck women.
She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.
You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.
The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.
I am so glad you said this. I think my next post will tackle this head on.joekerr31 said:part of me wonders how much we as men really like women and how much of it is we like to f*ck women.
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
[joekerr dawns his steve irwin voice and turns on his camcorder...]iqqi said:Well you are little pvssys! It is sad!
joekerr31 said:oh oh, looks like her tactics are starting to work. she just called the men p*ssies. but its ok mate, she knows she's safe doing that because she's not face to face with them. if she had tried that tactic in real life, good chance one of the males would have knocked her two front teeth out.
ive never hit a woman in my life. and never will.iqqi said:^^funny almost
but i bet you would hit a woman. I bet you think there are good reasons to.
Aren't you sensitive.joekerr31 said:ive never hit a woman in my life. and never will.
to be honest, if we were face to face and you called me a p*ssy, it would be the last thing you ever call me, becuase i'd have nothing to do with you after that.
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
iqqi said:Aren't you sensitive.
Well I really think alot of you could have used an older brother calling your a$$es out like I do sometimes, maybe you wouldn't have grown up to be such... mmm... AFC's. There, is that better, you like your insults sugar coated, darling? Iq can give it to you sweet.![]()
How convenient. We all believe you.iqqi said:Hmmm... I would give you an example, however that was not my point actually.
Tell that to my gf sitting next to me who is more intelligent, mature and beautiful than you (unless you're an 11 and just pretending to be dense).iqqi said:Well you are little pvssys! It is sad!
And to further relate, I don't know many "quality" women who would really be serious about you. Which could explain your hopelessness regarding women!
I am not having a bad day. I ASSUMED that you PREJUDGED me because you said yourself:Interceptor said:iqqi, you are plain, flat out wrong that I am prejudiced about yuo and women. That's a baseless asumption. But that's ok, I know you're angry. Like Penny said everyone has "bad days".
You're probasbly feeling defensive too, understood.
I did not say anything about your comment being condescending. I feel that you guys cannot read!Interceptor said:Second, my comment on your comment is not condescending in any way, it simply shows my disappointment that you truly feel that way.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
I'm surprised you're actually trying to have a serious discussion with this chick, at some point you have to realize it's pointless. I think this is also an example of how we tend to make concessions for them because they're women.Interceptor said:iqqi, you are plain, flat out wrong that I am prejudiced about yuo and women. That's a baseless asumption. But that's ok, I know you're angry. Like Penny said everyone has "bad days".
You're probasbly feeling defensive too, understood.
This was good, but the part that made me laugh the most was that she thought you were simply trying to be funny and rather than challenge it she deviates from it entirely and says:joekerr31 said:[joekerr dawns his steve irwin voice and turns on his camcorder...]
There are actually good reasons to, sometimes (see above).iqqi said:but i bet you would hit a woman. I bet you think there are good reasons to.
interceptor, i am sorry that you got such an angry feel from this thread. i was hoping that history could be talked about maturely, but as soon as i posted the thread, i felt like i shouldn't have.Interceptor said:But let's try to keep a positive, growth oriented perspective on this.
IDK I just get this angry feleing from this thread, adn IMHO it really shoudln't be that way.
And yet men DO love that sh*t. So stop being taken aback.I must say I was a bit taken a back with your "Men love that sh*t" comment.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
never apologize.Interceptor said:Iqqi, I'm not getting anywhere with this, It seems like you are defensive.
I apologize. I never even intended to be condescendng, rude, or offensive. I was disappinted. OK?
You want to call it even? Forget about it?
Or do you want to clear things up?
Let me know. Thanks.
Take care, and have a nice day.
Perhaps the great iqqi could enlight us all on what STOOOPID isnt.iqqi said:most of the points on this thread from you guys are STOOOPID.
Phyzzle said:Iqqi, why can't you be nice and submissive like Penkitten?
But really guys, Iqqi is not saying that men SHOULD be chivalrous, or help her out, or give her a cigarette when she asks. She is simply saying that they DO. Big difference.
For example:
And yet men DO love that sh*t.
:crazy:
So stop being taken aback.
She's just making fun of you guys for overreacting.
WHAT??!! You think this is a good thing?? Hello??
And I can see her point of view. Comparing the acceptance of a favor from an attracted guy to having a twisted sense of entitlement is an overreaction.
You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.
I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.
Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.
These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.