iqqi
Master Don Juan
I am so glad you said this. I think my next post will tackle this head on.joekerr31 said:part of me wonders how much we as men really like women and how much of it is we like to f*ck women.
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
I am so glad you said this. I think my next post will tackle this head on.joekerr31 said:part of me wonders how much we as men really like women and how much of it is we like to f*ck women.
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
[joekerr dawns his steve irwin voice and turns on his camcorder...]iqqi said:Well you are little pvssys! It is sad!
joekerr31 said:oh oh, looks like her tactics are starting to work. she just called the men p*ssies. but its ok mate, she knows she's safe doing that because she's not face to face with them. if she had tried that tactic in real life, good chance one of the males would have knocked her two front teeth out.
ive never hit a woman in my life. and never will.iqqi said:^^funny almost
but i bet you would hit a woman. I bet you think there are good reasons to.
Aren't you sensitive.joekerr31 said:ive never hit a woman in my life. and never will.
to be honest, if we were face to face and you called me a p*ssy, it would be the last thing you ever call me, becuase i'd have nothing to do with you after that.
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
iqqi said:Aren't you sensitive.
Well I really think alot of you could have used an older brother calling your a$$es out like I do sometimes, maybe you wouldn't have grown up to be such... mmm... AFC's. There, is that better, you like your insults sugar coated, darling? Iq can give it to you sweet.![]()
How convenient. We all believe you.iqqi said:Hmmm... I would give you an example, however that was not my point actually.
Tell that to my gf sitting next to me who is more intelligent, mature and beautiful than you (unless you're an 11 and just pretending to be dense).iqqi said:Well you are little pvssys! It is sad!
And to further relate, I don't know many "quality" women who would really be serious about you. Which could explain your hopelessness regarding women!
I am not having a bad day. I ASSUMED that you PREJUDGED me because you said yourself:Interceptor said:iqqi, you are plain, flat out wrong that I am prejudiced about yuo and women. That's a baseless asumption. But that's ok, I know you're angry. Like Penny said everyone has "bad days".
You're probasbly feeling defensive too, understood.
I did not say anything about your comment being condescending. I feel that you guys cannot read!Interceptor said:Second, my comment on your comment is not condescending in any way, it simply shows my disappointment that you truly feel that way.
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
I'm surprised you're actually trying to have a serious discussion with this chick, at some point you have to realize it's pointless. I think this is also an example of how we tend to make concessions for them because they're women.Interceptor said:iqqi, you are plain, flat out wrong that I am prejudiced about yuo and women. That's a baseless asumption. But that's ok, I know you're angry. Like Penny said everyone has "bad days".
You're probasbly feeling defensive too, understood.
This was good, but the part that made me laugh the most was that she thought you were simply trying to be funny and rather than challenge it she deviates from it entirely and says:joekerr31 said:[joekerr dawns his steve irwin voice and turns on his camcorder...]
There are actually good reasons to, sometimes (see above).iqqi said:but i bet you would hit a woman. I bet you think there are good reasons to.
interceptor, i am sorry that you got such an angry feel from this thread. i was hoping that history could be talked about maturely, but as soon as i posted the thread, i felt like i shouldn't have.Interceptor said:But let's try to keep a positive, growth oriented perspective on this.
IDK I just get this angry feleing from this thread, adn IMHO it really shoudln't be that way.
And yet men DO love that sh*t. So stop being taken aback.I must say I was a bit taken a back with your "Men love that sh*t" comment.
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
never apologize.Interceptor said:Iqqi, I'm not getting anywhere with this, It seems like you are defensive.
I apologize. I never even intended to be condescendng, rude, or offensive. I was disappinted. OK?
You want to call it even? Forget about it?
Or do you want to clear things up?
Let me know. Thanks.
Take care, and have a nice day.
Perhaps the great iqqi could enlight us all on what STOOOPID isnt.iqqi said:most of the points on this thread from you guys are STOOOPID.
Phyzzle said:Iqqi, why can't you be nice and submissive like Penkitten?
But really guys, Iqqi is not saying that men SHOULD be chivalrous, or help her out, or give her a cigarette when she asks. She is simply saying that they DO. Big difference.
For example:
And yet men DO love that sh*t.
:crazy:
So stop being taken aback.
She's just making fun of you guys for overreacting.
WHAT??!! You think this is a good thing?? Hello??
And I can see her point of view. Comparing the acceptance of a favor from an attracted guy to having a twisted sense of entitlement is an overreaction.
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.