"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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High specs but zero matches - Dating Apps

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that's why i said an average looking guy, not an average guy. an average looking guy who has rizz, style, social proof/preselection, wealth, status, etc can absolutely slay on dating apps if he has pics that showcase this. showing real (not fabricated) preselection alone can bump a 5/10 man to a 9/10 instantly.

my friend had a pic recently that showcased this, i can ask him for it if ya'll really want to see it, it was a pic of him laying down in the bow of a nice looking boat/yacht, wearing stylish and expensive clothes and sunglasses, with hot women in the edge frame you cannot fully see. he also seemed extremely relaxed and nonchalant, like he didn't give a fck about them. that picture alone creates incredible intrigue and preselection that will make women's gina tingle. yall understimate the power of photos like that.

maybe i can't make a comparison to how well a low-effort Chad would do in comparison, but i will maintain that the the qualities i mentioned are extremely powerful. but the sad reality is that Chads are far more likely to have all of those other traits anyway since being extraordinarily good looking generally causes the world to fall into your lap, so naturally they will show things like wealth and preselection in their photos anyway, but i don't think people are acknowledging all the invididual components that go into this.
Id be keen to see the pic mate, for sure. :up:
Pm it to me if you prefer.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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All of this dating app talk from guys who are afraid to step out and approach women in real life. :lol:
I was in a club last night and approached about 10 women. All mid. all the most decent looking chicks were already paired up with dudes in the place. :(:cry:

before that I’d had an app date at 8pm.
And another app date at 11pm at that club.
both women were subpar catfishers also so waste of time both. Meh.

Cold approaching don’t always work out either…
 

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I wasn't backpedaling I was making that point to show why this causes confusion. And I wouldn't say that a Chads photos will automatically be good no matter what, a Chad could take photos that are so bad that he would cease to be a Chad even if he was in the top 1% of looks.

The part people are missing in the case of these tinder experiments specifically is that they're getting the photos from POPULAR public places, they probably are literally googling "male model" or "male influencer", and using the first results, which basically guarantees the guy will be confident, popular, wealthy, nice clothes, social proof, and a plethora of professional photos to pick from which showcase all of these qualities...

I bet if someone did another tinder experiment where they sourced the photos of a Chad from somewhere obscure place like a 4chan thread where the guy was some autistic/anti social doomer/gooner weirdo, the results would be VERY different.
come on now.. don’t be tryna propose scenarios that will never ever happen. (Bolded bits)

It doesn’t matter the quality of Chads pics.
his cranio-facial features and good genetics are there to see regardless of it’s low quality dirty mirror selfie .chad knows what his selling points are and will display his value.

don’t be kiddin yo self.
hard coping here mate..
 

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come on now.. don’t be tryna propose scenarios that will never ever happen. (Bolded bits)

It doesn’t matter the quality of Chads pics.
his cranio-facial features and good genetics are there to see regardless of it’s low quality dirty mirror selfie .chad knows what his selling points are and will display his value.

don’t be kiddin yo self.
hard coping here mate..
A lot of the time it is just leanmaxxing, not genetics.

Going out drinking every night like you're doing, has I'm sure covered your features with several lbs of excess fat just in your face.

I think you need to MonkModemaxx for a few weeks.

(6'2" here, 31" waist, just been repping weighted pull ups +55lbs.)
 

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A lot of the time it is just leanmaxxing, not genetics.

Going out drinking every night like you're doing, has I'm sure covered your features with several lbs of excess fat just in your face.

I think you need to MonkModemaxx for a few weeks.

(6'2" here, 31" waist, just been repping weighted pull ups +55lbs.)
lol at the assumptions.

Last 4 months I’ve been celibate dude ..just back on the prowl 3 weeks ago :D
But yeah I’m feeling the nights out already for sure .that is correct re the boozing effects.
Not much tho …… yet !
 
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“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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@UK manc yoi have been inspiring me to look at fitness and gym tho so thanks.
Been tryna smash the swims at the 50m pool lately and getting ideas to take up Boxing. :up:

also tried to find a very funny viral fitness video I recalled from a few years back and post it up for ya
It was some Asian American dude (I think) doing the funniest insane circuit at a gym , mad push-ups and twists and **** , like super strength gymnastics using the machines ..it was gold :rofl: I he looked like a soldier maybe . Does it ring a bell?
I couldn’t find on google searches .
 

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A lot of the time it is just leanmaxxing, not genetics.
I missed that first read.
Now you are also coping hard ,..with poor FlexpertH.:lol:

it’s cranio-facials dude. Bone structure and skull. lean maxxing doesn’t change facial ratios .
 

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A lot of the time it is just leanmaxxing, not genetics.

Going out drinking every night like you're doing, has I'm sure covered your features with several lbs of excess fat just in your face.

I think you need to MonkModemaxx for a few weeks.

(6'2" here, 31" waist, just been repping weighted pull ups +55lbs.)
fair point

as an example, Brad Pitt at 1.8. m was 70kg in fight club. And that is really good form for a guy. Maybe add a couple more kgs of muscle you can not be more than 75kg at that height, and that only if you are super muscular

Being super lean is very important for improving your attractiveness

even girls, if she is 1.70 her ideal weight is somewhere between 50 and 58 kgs. Over 60 kg she starts being a bit fat and over 65kg she is fat

unless she is an athlete and has big muscles, but in the vast majority of cases that is not the case

you can go bigger, like Christian bale in American psycho or Batman begins, but that guy was full of muscles and never weighted more than 85kgs at 1.83. But you have to have a really healthy and train all the time
To keep that physique

but as an idea if you are for example 1.80 m and have more than 70kg, unless you are muscular, it means that you are going more and more on being fat

The vary vast majority of people we find hot, are also skinny / very in shape

Rarely we see people who are a bit overweight or overweight to be considered hot

maybe a guy going for the lumberjack style, bulky and a bit chubby but in shape. But I doubt this is something that will be appreciated on a big scale. Maybe in more rural / small cities type of settings
 
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come on now.. don’t be tryna propose scenarios that will never ever happen. (Bolded bits)

It doesn’t matter the quality of Chads pics.
his cranio-facial features and good genetics are there to see regardless of it’s low quality dirty mirror selfie .chad knows what his selling points are and will display his value.

don’t be kiddin yo self.
hard coping here mate..
go on 4chan bro you'll see autistic gooner chads posting pics asking why women dont swipe on him.
 

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go on 4chan bro you'll see autistic gooner chads posting pics asking why women dont swipe on him.
I’ve seen an example of such a type ‘Chudfishing the Doomers’ the video was called.
some dude living in his parents garage

Hard to believe but I’ll check it out.
But flex - these examples are the exception dude.
Outlier situations
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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fair point

as an example, Brad Pitt at 1.8. m was 70kg in fight club. And that is really good form for a guy. Maybe add a couple more kgs of muscle you can not be more than 75kg at that height, and that only if you are super muscular

Being super lean is very important for improving your attractiveness

even girls, if she is 1.70 her ideal weight is somewhere between 50 and 58 kgs. Over 60 kg she starts being a bit fat and over 65kg she is fat

unless she is an athlete and has big muscles, but in the vast majority of cases that is not the case

you can go bigger, like Christian bale in American psycho or Batman begins, but that guy was full of muscles and never weighted more than 85kgs at 1.83. But you have to have a really healthy and train all the time
To keep that physique

but as an idea if you are for example 1.80 m and have more than 70kg, unless you are muscular, it means that you are going more and more on being fat

The vary vast majority of people we find hot, are also skinny / very in shape

Rarely we see people who are a bit overweight or overweight to be considered hot

maybe a guy going for the lumberjack style, bulky and a bit chubby but in shape. But I doubt this is something that will be appreciated on a big scale. Maybe in more rural / small cities type of settings
that’s a very good analysis , well done. :up:
but for me manc, if I were to get leaner would it show in clothes ? And would I lose shoulders a bit ?
Not excuses . I’m currently swimming a lot to get fitter , more energy more toned and flexibility etc etc

I’d have to buy a whole new wardrobe also if leaner ..but that’d be good thing actually :lol:
 

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All of this dating app talk from guys who are afraid to step out and approach women in real life. :lol:
We have our differences on some things, but I will always agree with you that approaching in real life is far superior to online datng

Online dating always felt like eating fast food to me it may taste good at the time, but then you get the bubble guts after. Meeting women in person while it's not always filet mignon, the women tasted better and left me satisfied

I know it's not my best analogy, but you get the point
 

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that’s a very good analysis , well done. :up:
but for me manc, if I were to get leaner would it show in clothes ? And would I lose shoulders a bit ?
Not excuses . I’m currently swimming a lot to get fitter , more energy more toned and flexibility etc etc

I’d have to buy a whole new wardrobe also if leaner ..but that’d be good thing actually :lol:
You'd lose "size" but gain definition and vascularity.

You don't want your "size" just to be bodyfat, that's pointless.

It's mainly about your diet... nothing tastes as good as having a knuckle to shoulder permanently visible vein or two...

...and don't ever use the word "toned" !!
 

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I was in a club last night and approached about 10 women. All mid. all the most decent looking chicks were already paired up with dudes in the place. :(:cry:

before that I’d had an app date at 8pm.
And another app date at 11pm at that club.
both women were subpar catfishers also so waste of time both. Meh.

Cold approaching don’t always work out either…
Bruh, it's a numbers game either way.

These women, even the mid ones, have hundreds of dudes DM'ing them daily.

But they will go to the grocery store and won't get approached once.

With cold approach, you'll be that one dude who does.
 

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I was in a club last night and approached about 10 women. All mid. all the most decent looking chicks were already paired up with dudes in the place
You're astonished that most attractive women in a club are already spoken for ? The planet is filled with an infinite variety of venues at which to not only approach, but link up with intriguing people more generally
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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You're astonished that most attractive women in a club are already spoken for ? The planet is filled with an infinite variety of venues at which to not only approach, but link up with intriguing people more generally
I never said I was ‘astonished’?
was just bad luck. What exactly does your 2nd point mean. Such as … where ?
The masses tend to go out socialising to bars and clubs on a Saturday night, if you’ve noticed.
 

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Such as … where ?
The masses tend to go out socialising to bars and clubs on a Saturday night, if you’ve noticed.

I've found grocery stores(especially high endish ones like Whole Foods)and booksellers to be terrific forums, since my late teens-the present

Blindly imitating "the masses"(Same crowd of boneheads who've kept Teen Mom and Star Wars going, clamor for even MORE of that brainrot)'s every move is MORE ill-advised than going for a swim in The Everglades while equipped with a freshly severed arm, on a day where the gators are unusually famished
 
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Bruh, it's a numbers game either way.

These women, even the mid ones, have hundreds of dudes DM'ing them daily.

But they will go to the grocery store and won't get approached once.

With cold approach, you'll be that one dude who does.
yes Venom
BUT there is the obvious issue that

-The women all dressed up in the bars and nightclubs are there to possibly get picked up and laid.

-The women in the groceries store are there to buy their groceries.
 

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yes Venom
BUT there is the obvious issue that

-The women all dressed up in the bars and nightclubs are there to possibly get picked up and laid.

-The women in the groceries store are there to buy their groceries.
If she found you attractive at a nightclub, she'll find you attractive at a grocery store.

If you find her attractive on a dating app, you'll find her attractive at a grocery store or nightclub.

If you found her attractive at a grocery store, you'll find her attractive at a nightclub or dating app.

The venue doesn't matter...and the confidence in the man should follow him wherever he goes.

Most of my lays began from me cold approaching women at grocery stores...women of whom were there to buy their groceries.
 
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