High Score Theory

[Desdinova]

So a woman would completely forget the emotions she experienced with A, because today there's B who makes her experience something different?

Women live in the moment of their emotions. If A gets comfortable and caters to her whims, then B has the potential to come in and give her a nice dose of emotional fluctuation. The woman may suffer remorse after her emotional experience with B comes to an end. She may try and go back to A. We all know scenarios like this happen when a woman we're working on suddenly drops off the face of the Earth.

Women are less likely to stick with their emotional morals than Men are. A man's spot at the top is never a guarantee of relationship stability. This whole theory is there to help a man improve his chances at having a woman stay with him, and I would say it's improves the odds significantly to a point where it's as close to a guarantee as you can get. If I'm in the market for a LTR, I'm going to have more confidence in pursuing an 18 year old virgin than I would pursuing a 33 year old single mom, even if she's known me for the last 15 years. The 18 year old is going to have men on her list with extremely low scores whereas the single mom has men on her list (including myself) who have been living in her brain for years, constantly increasing their scores. The odds are better with the 18 year old who is much closer to being a blank slate.

So your theory is targeting 20's to 30's but not what happen after?

It mainly encompasses women before they enter Menopause. In this case (at least with what I've seen), Menopause appears to be some sort of a reset button. A woman goes through hormonal changes that affect the brain chemistry. HST may become completely irrelevant at this point, but don't quote me on that. I haven't done much exploration with post-Menopausal women because I have no desire to go out and fvck a random granny. Although it may be fascinating, post-Menopausal women are largely irrelevant to me. However, if you're with the 18 year old up to the point where she's finished Menopause, you've got familiarity and history on your side. She also doesn't know anything else besides life with you.

A post-menopausal woman's emotional attachment to you could just simply disappear. I've seen couples who have split after 40-50 years of marriage. However, if you're with a woman who's significantly younger than you, then who give a fvck? You might be dead by the time she's done Menopause.

Sorry if your theory raises questions, but it's very interesting, friend.

Questions prompt exploration in thought. I will always welcome it. It's better than being a brain dead beta.

 

[Bigpapa]

Women live in the moment of their emotions. If A gets comfortable and caters to her whims, then B has the potential to come in and give her a nice dose of emotional fluctuation. The woman may suffer remorse after her emotional experience with B comes to an end. She may try and go back to A. We all know scenarios like this happen when a woman we're working on suddenly drops off the face of the Earth.

Women are less likely to stick with their emotional morals than Men are. A man's spot at the top is never a guarantee of relationship stability. This whole theory is there to help a man improve his chances at having a woman stay with him, and I would say it's improves the odds significantly to a point where it's as close to a guarantee as you can get. If I'm in the market for a LTR, I'm going to have more confidence in pursuing an 18 year old virgin than I would pursuing a 33 year old single mom, even if she's known me for the last 15 years. The 18 year old is going to have men on her list with extremely low scores whereas the single mom has men on her list (including myself) who have been living in her brain for years, constantly increasing their scores. The odds are better with the 18 year old who is much closer to being a blank slate.


It mainly encompasses women before they enter Menopause. In this case (at least with what I've seen), Menopause appears to be some sort of a reset button. A woman goes through hormonal changes that affect the brain chemistry. HST may become completely irrelevant at this point, but don't quote me on that. I haven't done much exploration with post-Menopausal women because I have no desire to go out and fvck a random granny. Although it may be fascinating, post-Menopausal women are largely irrelevant to me. However, if you're with the 18 year old up to the point where she's finished Menopause, you've got familiarity and history on your side. She also doesn't know anything else besides life with you.

A post-menopausal woman's emotional attachment to you could just simply disappear. I've seen couples who have split after 40-50 years of marriage. However, if you're with a woman who's significantly younger than you, then who give a fvck? You might be dead by the time she's done Menopause.



Questions prompt exploration in thought. I will always welcome it. It's better than being a brain dead beta.

i would add the same thing about guys, you will always remember the girls that you did interesting stuff with or gave you good emotions

I even have a friend of example that is 42 and after like 20 years he got together with an ex of his

he said because the emotions between them are purer than what he experienced with other girls

though, I do not think that the issue is that the women are not that infatuated when doing things that they like

I think the problem is that people as they age, they start putting their guard higher and higher as they experience things

and ofc, you can not really experience something amazing when your walls are very high

in order to experience something fully you need to be vulnerable to it

if you see a bear and you are on foot you experience the scare at a higher pace than when you are on a bike or in a car or in a plane

 

[jhonny9546]

Women live in the moment of their emotions. If A gets comfortable and caters to her whims, then B has the potential to come in and give her a nice dose of emotional fluctuation. The woman may suffer remorse after her emotional experience with B comes to an end. She may try and go back to A. We all know scenarios like this happen when a woman we're working on suddenly drops off the face of the Earth.

Nothing more true, I can't say otherwise.

Emotionally affected, could "any" woman falls prey to manipulation?
In my experience, all women had no way of regulating themselves or being immune to some man's manipulation, while I've seen men resist it with reason, even if their d1cks were obviously pointing in another direction.

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Personally, this affects me deeply because, as I've explained in other posts, I've emotionally affected some women, yet I've made no move to get them into bed.
And I've watched them drift apart emotionally, and then gradually return to their current boyfriend, but all of them, and I mean all of them, have left the door open to receiving those emotions I'd made them feel again.
This makes you think: as men, we try so hard, but we have to understand that, after all the fun we've had with her, if she's succumbed to another man's emotions, it can happen, it's part of the game, and we have to move on.
I've seen too many friends take her back, and today they're enjoying a woman who's a pain in the 4ss and doesn't respect them.
And some, not all, let's say the minority, of these friends of mine have game and high-level men (but they're not yet familiar with the world of sosuave, yet).
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What do you mean "She may try and go back to A"?
Are you saying that a woman who returns with A, after an emotional experience with B, will continue to think about B? (So in this case, her first place, A, moved to second place precisely because she didn't get B, which goes from second place to first?)

Women are less likely to stick with their emotional morals than Men are.

After all, we talked about the fact that women detach themselves emotionally; they're simply weak.
In this case, have you ever asked yourself, what should we do as men?
Control her environment, for example, not letting her go to nightclubs or other vulnerable places, or simply give her complete freedom, but maintain a frame of mind?

@Bigpapa Nostalgia

 

[Desdinova]

What do you mean "She may try and go back to A"?
Are you saying that a woman who returns with A, after an emotional experience with B, will continue to think about B? (So in this case, her first place, A, moved to second place precisely because she didn't get B, which goes from second place to first?)

Of course she'll still think about B. He's on the list. She'll still think about C, D, E, and so on, although it's less prominent the further you go down the list.

My mistress had a fiancee who I firmly believe was Man A. I was somewhere lower, although I have no clue where. She screwed around on him many times with me. She would try and make it work with him, and then text me out of the blue looking to hook up again. I ended it when her fiancee realized we were fvcking around. She went and found another guy to cheat on him with. I know because she messaged me again after the affair looking to hook up with me again. She eventually married Man A and has 3 or 4 kids with him. They've continued to break up and get back together over the years. It might be permanently over now, although I don't know the circumstances.

 

[jhonny9546]

My mistress had a fiancee who I firmly believe was Man A. I was somewhere lower, although I have no clue where. She screwed around on him many times with me. She would try and make it work with him, and then text me out of the blue looking to hook up again. I ended it when her fiancee realized we were fvcking around. She went and found another guy to cheat on him with. I know because she messaged me again after the affair looking to hook up with me again. She eventually married Man A and has 3 or 4 kids with him. They've continued to break up and get back together over the years. It might be permanently over now, although I don't know the circumstances.

Thanks for sharing this story!
It’s genuinely reassuring to hear that other people experience the same kinds of dynamics I’ve experienced too.

There must be some kind of connection here.
Similar dynamics are discussed in "The Art of Seduction" book, which I will explain, within my experience, in the spoiler below.

Spoiler

In The Art of Seduction book, there is a story about Emperor Claudius, who is described as an anti-seducer, someone who was simply uninterested in seduction and romantic attention.

Her Wife says: "How could a man, especially someone considered physically unattractive like Claudius, fail to notice me or care about my relationships with other men?"

According to the story, his wife eventually began having extramarital affairs partly out of resentment over being neglected. It escalated into a constant succession of lovers and dramatic relationships.

The story ends tragically: her lovers are killed, she is eventually killed as well, and Claudius supposedly remains completely indifferent.

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That made me wonder: have you ever experienced women behaving in a way that made you feel as though you were being punished for not giving them enough attention?
Some of that is discussed here also https://www.girlschase.com/article/girls-will-auto-reject-you-if-you-dont-move-fast-enough

What I mean is this: if you don't give them the attention they want, they may turn to other men and seduce them. But the deeper purpose may not necessarily be those men themselves. It may be to provoke, manipulate, or get a reaction from the first man. The A man.

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This story struck me because, as you know, there has always been one woman in my life who began behaving this way toward me since we were about fifteen.
You might say, "You're overthinking it" or "You're still attached to these things."

And perhaps, to someone who doesn't know me, it could look that way.
But, as Desdi also said, the truth is that these experiences pushed me to observe from a distance and try to understand these dynamics more deeply. In a strange way, they have taught me a lot about people and relationships.
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Every time this woman reaches some kind of milestone in her life, the birth of a child, marriage, a promotion, a new house, a new car, or even another reconciliation with her boyfriend, she seems to find a way to contact me. Sometimes she changes her profile picture or posts a story, and then suddenly reappears. She want me to look at her milestones.. Why?

You could say, "Of course, you're just the beta orbiter. She's using you to make her husband jealous and keep him trying harder." And maybe that interpretation contains part of the truth.

But one thing this dynamic has made me realize is that if her partner gets the children, the relationship, the sex, and everything else, yet at the same time she constantly disrespects him, while he keeps trying harder and harder to please her, then perhaps he isn't the A man.
He is the man she can control, or have 100% control on.

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After reading that story, I began to think about the possibility that some women, If they don't feel chosen by someone they want or they really desire, they may spend years trying to make that person regret it, notice them, or react to them, until He act, or do a move.
At that point, she would ruin any relationship she had created just for that man.
(Which is what happened when she lost emotional control. Which is what Desdi confirmed to be, when She contact him again and again.)

This woman.. She knows that I don't tolerate disrespect. She also knows that I don't want the constant drama she brings into her relationship.
So, from my perspective, it sometimes feels as though she's using me in two ways: to provoke jealousy in her husband, who openly dislikes me, and, given this, to get some kind of reaction from me because I chose not to give her the attention she wanted, nor chose her as my gf.
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The pattern is fascinating.
At this point, I see her more as a case study than anything else.
Through observing this situation, I've learned a great deal about human behavior and relationship dynamics.

Things like this make you say:
a) Who is REALLY getting respect from this relationship? (The fact that A has had children, marriage does not mean that he is respected and desired as a man.)
b) Who is the real A: at this point if a woman behave like that, keeping a "A" man, and using him and all the other man, her orbiters, in his life like that, at this point is it pure fear of abandonment and the woman's mental illness.