"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Here's how I see it: 2 ways to get laid .. which would you choose?

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I've been thinking lately about the types of guys that get lots of tail, and I came to the conclusion that there are 2 main types:

-those who actively go out, game, and get it (i.e. the milfhunter guy, other puas)

-those who do something else that makes girls come to them (rock stars, movie stars, etc)

So which would you choose/are you choosing and why?
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Rex Man

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WRONG

There is a hidden Third way. Next time you're at the bar sitting next to a girl, point across the room and be like:

"Man, why is she wearing that?!?"
(When the girl inevitably looks over, slip some roofies in her drink)
Wait a couple mins........wait for it.......waaiiitt.......

Boo-Yah! :rockon: :rockon: :rockon: You're in.

Please, don't flatter me with your praise, it only embarrasses me.
 

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actively going out and gaming IS making them come to you except you have to demonstrate your value. Famous people already ahve demonstrated their value.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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anointed said:
actively going out and gaming IS making them come to you except you have to demonstrate your value. Famous people already ahve demonstrated their value.
Its really not the same thing.

And I'd much rather do it the 'rockstar' way...I mean who the hell actually enjoys working on seduction tactics to get sex?

Good job I'm in 2 bands and have a chance to be that rockstar :D
 

qweretyuiopas

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md3sign said:
I've been thinking lately about the types of guys that get lots of tail, and I came to the conclusion that there are 2 main types:

-those who actively go out, game, and get it (i.e. the milfhunter guy, other puas)

-those who do something else that makes girls come to them (rock stars, movie stars, etc)

So which would you choose/are you choosing and why?
Who is the milfhunter guy?
 

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md3sign said:
I've been thinking lately about the types of guys that get lots of tail, and I came to the conclusion that there are 2 main types:

-those who actively go out, game, and get it (i.e. the milfhunter guy, other puas)

-those who do something else that makes girls come to them (rock stars, movie stars, etc)

Well... since I'm not a rock star or a movie star. I'd have to say #1.
 

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Rex Man said:
WRONG

There is a hidden Third way. Next time you're at the bar sitting next to a girl, point across the room and be like:

"Man, why is she wearing that?!?"
(When the girl inevitably looks over, slip some roofies in her drink)
Wait a couple mins........wait for it.......waaiiitt.......

Boo-Yah! :rockon: :rockon: :rockon: You're in.

Please, don't flatter me with your praise, it only embarrasses me.
touche.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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md3sign said:
I've been thinking lately about the types of guys that get lots of tail, and I came to the conclusion that there are 2 main types:

-those who actively go out, game, and get it (i.e. the milfhunter guy, other puas)

-those who do something else that makes girls come to them (rock stars, movie stars, etc)

So which would you choose/are you choosing and why?
Option 2 and it's not even close. Option 2 people get the girls doing the things they love. You talk to them about spending hours in the field, and this method or that method, and they will laugh out loud. While the Option 1 guys have to make pick-up like an obsession, sometimes, even an addiction.
 

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qweretyuiopas said:
Who is the milfhunter guy?
just go to milfhunter.com it's that guy. basically just some random dude who got involved in making cheap porn flicks with club chicks (inthevip.com I think was the site) and the started doing his own thing .. now he basically just goes around and picks up chicks to bring back to his place and bang within like 10 minutes of meeting them, and a bunch of people are imitating him. he's just one example of a #1 type person - he's not even that attractive.


falcon - I agree. after reading "The Game" I realized how much wasted time that was on behalf of all those people. still, I'm curious about others' opinions.
 

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The problem is - option2 guys get girls doing something they love.

What if doing what you love is economics? or computer programming? I'm sorry but it's going to be much harder to get girls through your love of computer programming than it is through your love of being a movie star.
 

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md3sign said:
just go to milfhunter.com it's that guy. basically just some random dude who got involved in making cheap porn flicks with club chicks (inthevip.com I think was the site) and the started doing his own thing .. now he basically just goes around and picks up chicks to bring back to his place and bang within like 10 minutes of meeting them, and a bunch of people are imitating him. he's just one example of a #1 type person - he's not even that attractive.
They are paid "actresses" man. He doesn't just walk up to random broads on the street and talk them into doing porn.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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md3sign said:
I've been thinking lately about the types of guys that get lots of tail, and I came to the conclusion that there are 2 main types:

-those who actively go out, game, and get it (i.e. the milfhunter guy, other puas)

-those who do something else that makes girls come to them (rock stars, movie stars, etc)

So which would you choose/are you choosing and why?
option 3..go out and meet real life women with confidence
 

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That's why I'm an aspiring rockstar actually.
 

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Go out and show your value ;) Good BL & dressing & Social proof gets you there easily. No need to go to extremes.
 

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I'm not talking about extremes. I mentioned extremes to differentiate between the two types (and in fact they have parts of each other .. for example the milfhunter dude now has a reputation that precedes him, which makes laying chicks easier e.g. the domino effect).
 

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md3sign said:
just go to milfhunter.com it's that guy. basically just some random dude who got involved in making cheap porn flicks with club chicks (inthevip.com I think was the site) and the started doing his own thing .. now he basically just goes around and picks up chicks to bring back to his place and bang within like 10 minutes of meeting them, and a bunch of people are imitating him. he's just one example of a #1 type person - he's not even that attractive.


falcon - I agree. after reading "The Game" I realized how much wasted time that was on behalf of all those people. still, I'm curious about others' opinions.
O ok. I saw it, but if its a porn site I doubt they just random chicks they get paid for that. Male pornstars dont count
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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