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Bull - I get laid off of Tinder all the time. Tinder is excellent - like Uber Eats for sex. If you can get matches on Tinder, then you can get laid if you have good text game. If you aren't getting matches then you're screwed.

The biggest issue with Tinder is getting banned. It is so incredibly easy to get banned from Tinder. If Tinder isn't banning you, then you're doing something wrong.
 

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Bull - I get laid off of Tinder all the time. Tinder is excellent - like Uber Eats for sex. If you can get matches on Tinder, then you can get laid if you have good text game. If you aren't getting matches then you're screwed.

The biggest issue with Tinder is getting banned. It is so incredibly easy to get banned from Tinder. If Tinder isn't banning you, then you're doing something wrong.
How are you going about getting banned? I'm assuming it involves being extremely forward or sending **** pics?
 

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How are you going about getting banned? I'm assuming it involves being extremely forward or sending **** pics?
Quite the opposite. Women will only go out of their way to "report" guys that they see as sexually successful and out of their league. It's an interesting quirk that women have.

Sending dik pics is gutter-level anti-game.
 

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Quite the opposite. Women will only go out of their way to "report" guys that they see as sexually successful and out of their league. It's an interesting quirk that women have.

Sending dik pics is gutter-level anti-game.
I'm struggling to believe that even apps like tinder/bumble would ban a man who sends reasonable messages, regardless of how successful the he may appear.

I know the people who run those apps have a certain rep, but surely they vet the messages to some degree before banning the person?
 

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I'm struggling to believe that even apps like tinder/bumble would ban a man who sends reasonable messages, regardless of how successful the he may appear.

I know the people who run those apps have a certain rep, but surely they vet the messages to some degree before banning the person?
I got banned when a woman on bumble asked me "what i was looking for" and I responded with "someone to pay my rent, let's get started"


like Uber Eats for sex
You say that like it's a good thing
 

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I got banned when a woman on bumble asked me "what i was looking for" and I responded with "someone to pay my rent, let's get started"




You say that like it's a good thing
You've got 2 choices in Sydney, bro - Wh0res or Slvts. Take your pick.
 

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I'm struggling to believe that even apps like tinder/bumble would ban a man who sends reasonable messages, regardless of how successful the he may appear.

I know the people who run those apps have a certain rep, but surely they vet the messages to some degree before banning the person?
They don't really review ban requests man. It's pretty much automated. If you get reported a few times you're done.

...And Yes. Women HATE, HATE (but love) guys who don't simp - which is all it really takes.

E.g. Woman invites you to meet for coffee in a place that's convenient for her. You say no, and suggest a place that's convenient for you. Woman gets outraged that you're not complying and this actually risks a Report. Women express their arousal by trying to nuke you out of existence because they can't understand why their pvssy is dripping wet, but their entire education has been "men must simp for me and follow my bossgirl rules".

It's funny. Women will sometimes launch into a tirade about how guys must "make the effort" etc.
 

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We told you - move.

You live in an area of old people and fat people. Hot women don’t move to retirement areas in south Florida. They go to Miami, Atlanta, NYC, LA, etc. Your dating experience will not change until you move. No amount of game will create hot women in your area.
Both he and @oc16 need to move.
 

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We are talking dating apps so I would think be a good looking with guy with a muscular, super lean physique. Also have pictures where you are in your fancy car/jet.

It's super shallow, but that is the nature of such things and what there is to go off of. Most guys will fall short which is why these things are largely a waste of time. It's fantasy.
 

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Correct. if I go on Hinge all I see is heavy set black ladies, or tatted fat women. Tinder a lot of tatted, ugly and pierced tatted women. The people who brag about Tinder, etc. on here are usually from NYC, LA, Chicago etc. When I look at these OLD sites it's a lot of whales and tats.
I've also found that hinge has the least attractive women.

Tinder & Bumble > OkCupid > Facebook Dating ~ Coffee Meets Bagel > Hinge & PlentyOfFish

Here in NYC every girl on Tinder and Bumble are hot. OKC has a lot of hotties too. (That's okcupid not Oklahoma City lol)
 

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I think there is some truth to this.

How men on swipe apps think (regardless of their own attractiveness): Men are like fishermen casting a large net to see what they can catch. They will swipe right on anything that is a HB 6.5 and above, because what is there to lose?

How women (attractive women) on swipe apps think: Women have their distance setting to maybe 15-20 miles maximum and are a lot more selective on who they "swipe right" on. Unless you are "strikingly handsome" you are not going to get many matches.

How I came to this conclusion: I consider myself attractive (7 to 7.5), but I am not movie star good-looking. I also live in central Jersey where I won't even come up on an attractive woman's radar (due to distance) since I don't live in the NYC/Philly metro area.

Once every couple of weeks I will get a "match" on Bumble even though I swipe right on dozens of attractive women every day.
I know only two guys who claim to do well on OLD:

A relative who is 5'6 and makes $150,000 a year as a corporate executive, has traveled the world and used to have a six pack but is still in good shape.

A friend who is like 5'9 or 5'11. Completely jacked with muscle, makes like $35/hour as a welder (approx $70,000 yearly). He's also blonde and has cool tattoos.

I don't do particularly well on OLD because I am neither rich nor muscular lol.
 

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You arent a 7 if you're struggling on tinder etc. A 7 is chadlite tier, youre prolly closer to a 5 or 6 on a good day.
 

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You arent a 7 if you're struggling on tinder etc. A 7 is chadlite tier, youre prolly closer to a 5 or 6 on a good day.
Nah. 6 feet tall, fit, full head of hair. Good teeth. Think Steve Carrell or Matt Lauer.

I give myself an extra 1/2 point to full point due to the height advantage.
 
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I've also found that hinge has the least attractive women.

Tinder & Bumble > OkCupid > Facebook Dating ~ Coffee Meets Bagel > Hinge & PlentyOfFish

Here in NYC every girl on Tinder and Bumble are hot. OKC has a lot of hotties too. (That's okcupid not Oklahoma City lol)
OKC is unusable every since Match LLC bought it and neutered it. hardly anyone even on there.

Currently while OLD across the board sucks, Facebook dating app seems to have the most decent looking women in my age range on it. Then again it's a swipe type app so a lot of ghosting and flaking. But when it first came out and hardly anyone was using it it was pretty easy to get replies and matches.
 

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I know only two guys who claim to do well on OLD:

A relative who is 5'6 and makes $150,000 a year as a corporate executive, has traveled the world and used to have a six pack but is still in good shape.

A friend who is like 5'9 or 5'11. Completely jacked with muscle, makes like $35/hour as a welder (approx $70,000 yearly). He's also blonde and has cool tattoos.

I don't do particularly well on OLD because I am neither rich nor muscular lol.
Yea, the travel especially. The women love that. I assume he has a lot of pics in different countries he puts on his profile? I'm sure that also helps a lot.

Why not dress like you got money, maybe rent a nice car for a day and take pics? Fake it.
 

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You arent a 7 if you're struggling on tinder etc. A 7 is chadlite tier, youre prolly closer to a 5 or 6 on a good day.
I am probably a 7/8. Swipe apps are pretty easy.

Funny story:
I went to a 3 day conference in Texas. Was swiping as soon as I landed. Had a date with a local within 24 hours. Making out with the broad in the car, I try to get her back to the hotel room she declines.

Next day she hits me up says she wanted to bang but has genital herpes but if I’m ok with that she wants to come through. I declined, deleted her number. Another L for tinder.
 

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We are talking dating apps so I would think be a good looking with guy with a muscular, super lean physique. Also have pictures where you are in your fancy car/jet.

It's super shallow, but that is the nature of such things and what there is to go off of. Most guys will fall short which is why these things are largely a waste of time. It's fantasy.
Too intimidating. It turns women on, but it's scary. You want to appear a bit more accessible and not totally narcissistic. You cast a much wider net for hotties this way.

You want to channel a handsome, successful attainable boy-next-door all-American type, but with a dark/badboy side. That's really all you need.
 

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I have more success on Bumble than Tinder, but to be honest I was biased from the beginning because I got laid after 1 day of installing the app so I just kept using it.

Nah. 6 feet tall, fit, full head of hair. Good teeth. Think Steve Carrell or Matt Lauer.

I give myself an extra 1/2 point to full point due to the height advantage.
You sound like an OK looking dude. How do your swipes look? If you have high swipes but low close game, then it's an issue with your interaction with the girls. If you get low swipes then perhaps you're "good looking" but you look boring or disingenuous in some way.

I'm curious to know what your whole "OLD approach" actually is. Do you have an opener? What do you say to them?
Do you wait for them to approach you first?

I/we need to know more info to actually help you. Do you have any example interaction with women you've spoken to?
 

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Too intimidating. It turns women on, but it's scary. You want to appear a bit more accessible and not totally narcissistic. You cast a much wider net for hotties this way.

You want to channel a handsome, successful attainable boy-next-door all-American type, but with a dark/badboy side. That's really all you need.
Owning a business jet is like .005 percent of the population. If you have millions and millions like this then you shouldn't even be near old websites to begin with or even think about using them. Totally stupid. You have access to much better looking women than trash old.
 

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The guys who aren't giving up on online game are the guys getting laid from it. You've gotta be rewarded by OLD to find it worthwhile. Having Game helps a lot, but you've gotta look good too to get the match in the first place. From there it's all about text game and getting her to meet you. It's a very systematic thing. There's no guesswork. It's a cold, calculated machine.

The main problem is that the vast majority of guys are not attractive for women (90%+ I'd say). If you fall into that category then you've got plenty of company.
What level of quality photos do you need? I am a good looking guy with a nice body. I got several matches, hardly any of which converted to an actual date. My text game is okay. I suspect if I wanted more matches I'd have to up the quality of my photos, first and foremost.
 
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