"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Has anyone here been/is in a normal healthy relationship?

[S]alvatore

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After seeing gods gift to women's "Discussion on keeping women around" thread, I thought about this. So who of you here have been or are currently in a relationship where there are no games, no lies, no cheating and it is actually based around how you feel towards one another? (I didn't include sh1t-tests in there because I think it is fine for women to do these at the start to see how strong of a character a man has, and whether he can think on his own two feet. But if they continually happen then it is wrong).

It just seems that the majority of relationships i've been involved in, there is always one person who has the power while the other doesn't. Then something happens and the roles are reversed. And in my recollection there have only been a few instances where no-one had power over the other, and the feelings/respect were mutual. Re-imposing my question: Who has or is currently in a healthy relationship?
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Francisco d'Anconia

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Ummm... I'll take the "0" (zero) for this assignment...

Do they even make a woman that would foster such a relationship?
 

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Zero. All of my strong, healthy, long lasting relationships had the woman liking me somewhat more than I liked her. It's the natural way.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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I have been in a strong and healthy relationship for 9 months (just added pic to picture thread). It is kinda sad that not many guys here have that, but there is not much relationship advice being given out on this forum. Actually a lot of it is anti-relationship advice.

In my opinion a lot of guys here overcomplicate things or try too hard to take all the power. Relationships aren't about constant power struggles. They need to be equal and based on mutual respect and attraction.

A lot of you also need to learn how to relax and be yourself. Facades and gimmicks do not work in relationships.
 

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nope.
 

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The Truth said:
In my opinion a lot of guys here overcomplicate things or try too hard to take all the power. Relationships aren't about constant power struggles. They need to be equal and based on mutual respect and attraction.
You dear, sweet man!! Fight the Power!!
 

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I thought I was in a healthy relationship, once. About three solid years. She left me for my best friend, no warning, and the clincher was, she put the cats I gave her as kittens to sleep when she moved in with him -- his apartment wouldn't take pets.

I thought I had her all dialed in, too.

Fvck 'em all.
 

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Nope,not one healthy one. Meh I'm young though,my time will come sooner or later.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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The Truth

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Doesn't say a lot about this forum does it?
 

blinkwatt

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The Truth said:
Doesn't say a lot about this forum does it?
Depends,what do you consider a "healthy" relationship. I would call a "healthy" relationship one that last longer then 3 months and I 100% trusted the other person. Most members are here on how to "seduce" women and get one-night-stands,not for relationships.
 

The Bad Ass Canadian

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I was in a 3yr relationship, a 2yr relationship and a bunch of one year's. They were all really healthy and there were no games.

The funny thing is, ever since I discovered sosuave, I've not been in very many LTR's but I've had much more success with short term flings and one night stands.

Right now, I'm kinda trying to find the balance where i can attract a good girl to get serious with, but still maintain my outgoing "non-pvssy whipped" attitude. That's my goal.
 
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