"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Has anyone here been/is in a normal healthy relationship?

[S]alvatore

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After seeing gods gift to women's "Discussion on keeping women around" thread, I thought about this. So who of you here have been or are currently in a relationship where there are no games, no lies, no cheating and it is actually based around how you feel towards one another? (I didn't include sh1t-tests in there because I think it is fine for women to do these at the start to see how strong of a character a man has, and whether he can think on his own two feet. But if they continually happen then it is wrong).

It just seems that the majority of relationships i've been involved in, there is always one person who has the power while the other doesn't. Then something happens and the roles are reversed. And in my recollection there have only been a few instances where no-one had power over the other, and the feelings/respect were mutual. Re-imposing my question: Who has or is currently in a healthy relationship?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Francisco d'Anconia

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Ummm... I'll take the "0" (zero) for this assignment...

Do they even make a woman that would foster such a relationship?
 

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Zero. All of my strong, healthy, long lasting relationships had the woman liking me somewhat more than I liked her. It's the natural way.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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I have been in a strong and healthy relationship for 9 months (just added pic to picture thread). It is kinda sad that not many guys here have that, but there is not much relationship advice being given out on this forum. Actually a lot of it is anti-relationship advice.

In my opinion a lot of guys here overcomplicate things or try too hard to take all the power. Relationships aren't about constant power struggles. They need to be equal and based on mutual respect and attraction.

A lot of you also need to learn how to relax and be yourself. Facades and gimmicks do not work in relationships.
 

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nope.
 

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The Truth said:
In my opinion a lot of guys here overcomplicate things or try too hard to take all the power. Relationships aren't about constant power struggles. They need to be equal and based on mutual respect and attraction.
You dear, sweet man!! Fight the Power!!
 

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I thought I was in a healthy relationship, once. About three solid years. She left me for my best friend, no warning, and the clincher was, she put the cats I gave her as kittens to sleep when she moved in with him -- his apartment wouldn't take pets.

I thought I had her all dialed in, too.

Fvck 'em all.
 

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Nope,not one healthy one. Meh I'm young though,my time will come sooner or later.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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The Truth

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Doesn't say a lot about this forum does it?
 

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The Truth said:
Doesn't say a lot about this forum does it?
Depends,what do you consider a "healthy" relationship. I would call a "healthy" relationship one that last longer then 3 months and I 100% trusted the other person. Most members are here on how to "seduce" women and get one-night-stands,not for relationships.
 

The Bad Ass Canadian

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I was in a 3yr relationship, a 2yr relationship and a bunch of one year's. They were all really healthy and there were no games.

The funny thing is, ever since I discovered sosuave, I've not been in very many LTR's but I've had much more success with short term flings and one night stands.

Right now, I'm kinda trying to find the balance where i can attract a good girl to get serious with, but still maintain my outgoing "non-pvssy whipped" attitude. That's my goal.
 
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