"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Has anyone here been/is in a normal healthy relationship?

[S]alvatore

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After seeing gods gift to women's "Discussion on keeping women around" thread, I thought about this. So who of you here have been or are currently in a relationship where there are no games, no lies, no cheating and it is actually based around how you feel towards one another? (I didn't include sh1t-tests in there because I think it is fine for women to do these at the start to see how strong of a character a man has, and whether he can think on his own two feet. But if they continually happen then it is wrong).

It just seems that the majority of relationships i've been involved in, there is always one person who has the power while the other doesn't. Then something happens and the roles are reversed. And in my recollection there have only been a few instances where no-one had power over the other, and the feelings/respect were mutual. Re-imposing my question: Who has or is currently in a healthy relationship?
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Francisco d'Anconia

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Ummm... I'll take the "0" (zero) for this assignment...

Do they even make a woman that would foster such a relationship?
 

Phyzzle

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Zero. All of my strong, healthy, long lasting relationships had the woman liking me somewhat more than I liked her. It's the natural way.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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The Truth

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I have been in a strong and healthy relationship for 9 months (just added pic to picture thread). It is kinda sad that not many guys here have that, but there is not much relationship advice being given out on this forum. Actually a lot of it is anti-relationship advice.

In my opinion a lot of guys here overcomplicate things or try too hard to take all the power. Relationships aren't about constant power struggles. They need to be equal and based on mutual respect and attraction.

A lot of you also need to learn how to relax and be yourself. Facades and gimmicks do not work in relationships.
 

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nope.
 

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The Truth said:
In my opinion a lot of guys here overcomplicate things or try too hard to take all the power. Relationships aren't about constant power struggles. They need to be equal and based on mutual respect and attraction.
You dear, sweet man!! Fight the Power!!
 

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I thought I was in a healthy relationship, once. About three solid years. She left me for my best friend, no warning, and the clincher was, she put the cats I gave her as kittens to sleep when she moved in with him -- his apartment wouldn't take pets.

I thought I had her all dialed in, too.

Fvck 'em all.
 

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Nope,not one healthy one. Meh I'm young though,my time will come sooner or later.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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The Truth

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Doesn't say a lot about this forum does it?
 

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The Truth said:
Doesn't say a lot about this forum does it?
Depends,what do you consider a "healthy" relationship. I would call a "healthy" relationship one that last longer then 3 months and I 100% trusted the other person. Most members are here on how to "seduce" women and get one-night-stands,not for relationships.
 

The Bad Ass Canadian

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I was in a 3yr relationship, a 2yr relationship and a bunch of one year's. They were all really healthy and there were no games.

The funny thing is, ever since I discovered sosuave, I've not been in very many LTR's but I've had much more success with short term flings and one night stands.

Right now, I'm kinda trying to find the balance where i can attract a good girl to get serious with, but still maintain my outgoing "non-pvssy whipped" attitude. That's my goal.
 
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